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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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OP, of course there are positive stories out there. It's just that the bad ones get a lot of attention.
I've been working at the same hagwon for almost four years now and I like my school a lot. Good stories don't get out as much I guess because people who are content with their hagwons don't feel as compelled to write threads like "Hey everyone, I am happy with my school!!!" Lol.
Anyway, I don't agree with what you said about how even though you do all your homework researching the hagwon, you could still end up at a bad one. Sure, that could be the case sometimes, but I would say if you thoroughly do your homework, chances are that the hagwon you choose to work for will live up to the expectations you've laid out (12 months, paid severance and airfare). |
Excellent comment and advice right there!
Well said Loren.
I will add that a "good hakwon" also depends on your own attitude and readiness to adapt.
In fact, that can be a critical factor. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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3) Know what you demand out of a hagwon. Personally I would advise you look for a job with something like this.....minimum 2.1 mil/month starting, no kindergarten, in Seoul, airfare and severance, 10 days vacation plus nat'l holidays, no more than 35 hours/week (office hours and extra responsibilities included!!), no weekends.
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Good list of things but why give the impression the OP has to live in Seoul as if that's the only city with good jobs or to have a good life in Korea?
Better advice would be to research cities as well as jobs. Seoul isn't for everyone. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| lorenchristopher wrote: |
3) Know what you demand out of a hagwon. Personally I would advise you look for a job with something like this.....minimum 2.1 mil/month starting, no kindergarten, in Seoul, airfare and severance, 10 days vacation plus nat'l holidays, no more than 35 hours/week (office hours and extra responsibilities included!!), no weekends.
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Good list of things but why give the impression the OP has to live in Seoul as if that's the only city with good jobs or to have a good life in Korea?
Better advice would be to research cities as well as jobs. Seoul isn't for everyone. |
Every other City in the country is more or less a copy of Seoul or wants to be Seoul.
There are a few exceptions such as Busan and Jeju, but for the most part, it's the same **** everywhere. |
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sunshiningschool
Joined: 15 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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My preferred location actually is Seoul. Does anyone have any Seoul located hagwons they would recommend?
Also thanks lorenchristopher, I will probably use your directions to apply. Your list of requirements of the hagwon are spot on what I would want, but is that too much to ask? I feel like finding that deal might be too good to be true. |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Read the OP of my contract review thread as well. The best hagwons are tue ones where they're not a chain or franchise. My best experiences have been with small schools that had either one or two locations. In those hagwons the directors are usually more personable because they don't consider you a cog in the machine. Of course this can be bad if they're crazy and micro managing, but it's up to you to talk to other teachers to figure it out. Schools run by foreigners are a mixed bag. I rarely hear good things about them. You lack the language barrier, but in place there is a certain desperation that comes through due to owning a business in a foreign country, but as always, your mileage may vary. Best case scenario you find a school that has been around for a while (5+ years) and has good recommendations by their teachers and isn't a chain. |
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skiptomylu
Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| Read the OP of my contract review thread as well. The best hagwons are tue ones where they're not a chain or franchise. My best experiences have been with small schools that had either one or two locations. In those hagwons the directors are usually more personable because they don't consider you a cog in the machine. Of course this can be bad if they're crazy and micro managing, but it's up to you to talk to other teachers to figure it out. Schools run by foreigners are a mixed bag. I rarely hear good things about them. You lack the language barrier, but in place there is a certain desperation that comes through due to owning a business in a foreign country, but as always, your mileage may vary. Best case scenario you find a school that has been around for a while (5+ years) and has good recommendations by their teachers and isn't a chain. |
Are these non-chain schools any of the ones posted on worknplay, craigslist or here on daves? Just wondering since it feels like they all are chains and I'm wanting to try and find these non-chain hagwons. |
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