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So how bad s the job market back home???
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Federal Public Sector has put on a hiring freeze and is cutting back in numerous departments by not replacing those people that retire or leave.


The same is true with a lot of US government agencies (but not all).
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creeper1



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.
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hondaicivic



Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.
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creeper1



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many blue chip companies have shipped jobs abroad. It's called outsourcing. It's one of the reasons the US only consumes and doesn't produce anything.

This is not anti-American. I said clearly which coutries are finished. They are the UK, Ireland and the USA. I do not include Australia and Canada in that list.

The reason is simple they are bankrupt with mind boggling debt.

Anyway this is my last comment on this thread. YOu can go home and get your dream job. Laughing
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rumdiary



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: So how bad s the job market back home??? Reply with quote

minos wrote:
So I was talking to my paents and they were telling it's still pretty bad. They haven't researched it, but they said staying here was the best thing unless I wanted grad school. I'm pretty comfortable here, but I'm curious how bad it is back home.
What kinds of job would you be looking for? If you are just looking for 'a job' you probably have a liberal arts degree and teaching in Korea is the highlight of your resume. If that is the case you should either go to grad school or stay put forever. There are many fields that are hiring but they require either an advanced degree or some kind of skill. Some states are still desperate for teachers especially if you can teach math, science, or special ed. You would be much better off asking your friends back home what the market is like since they will have information about where you plan on moving back to. Right now you're getting advice from people who think back home refers to where ever back home is for them.

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hondaicivic



Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Many blue chip companies have shipped jobs abroad. It's called outsourcing. It's one of the reasons the US only consumes and doesn't produce anything.

This is not anti-American. I said clearly which coutries are finished. They are the UK, Ireland and the USA. I do not include Australia and Canada in that list.

The reason is simple they are bankrupt with mind boggling debt.

Anyway this is my last comment on this thread. YOu can go home and get your dream job. Laughing



You can stay here and live under the authoritarian confucian culture. Have fun. I take a fallen America over a wannabe modern country like Korea and all those asian countries any day.
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conrad2



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Many blue chip companies have shipped jobs abroad. It's called outsourcing. It's one of the reasons the US only consumes and doesn't produce anything. :


The US is the worlds largest manufacturer by far. Know what you are talking about before you post.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.
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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: So how bad s the job market back home??? Reply with quote

lithium wrote:
minos wrote:
So I was talking to my paents and they were telling it's still pretty bad. They haven't researched it, but they said staying here was the best thing unless I wanted grad school. I'm pretty comfortable here, but I'm curious how bad it is back home.


I wouldn't even consider going home if I were you with a Marxist in the WH. Companies are reluctant to hire with the atmosphere provided by a Demacrat in charge; unless you're in his pocket like GE.

America needs capitalist!


The private sector created over a million new jobs in 2010 and over 130,000 since 2011 began.

He's a real Marxist I tells ya Rolling Eyes

Btw, look where you are. You live in a country with socialized medicine. A country where the large majority of everything made by 3 or 4 companies, not thousands of companies like back home.

You also live about a hundred miles from an honest-to-god marxist in charge of a country where there is not private industry.

I'm so sick of the "Obama is a socialist/marxist/communist" dribble. I wish I could take everyone one of the retards that say that to Pyongyang for a week so they can see what actually marxist communism looks like.
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hondaicivic



Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.



Name me an Asian Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg or a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Intel in countries like China or Korea or anywhere in Asia.
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a person was really, really sick of Korea and wanted to move back to the U.S. at any cost, I guarantee you could get a job in the oil industry. Long hours, but tons of money. And a few of the jobs are pretty cushy. (Mine involves sitting in an office chair occasionally glancing at a monitor, and every once in a while entering some information.)
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondaicivic wrote:
Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.



Name me an Asian Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg or a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Intel in countries like China or Korea or anywhere in Asia.


So you're saying IT is everything? It's certainly an important field but no longer dominated by the U.S. You're still behind the times, dude.

U.S. poll: 21st century belongs to China
America will play lesser role, most say

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/26/20100226Poll-USChina0226.html

The United States still has formidable strengths. Its economy will eventually recover. Its military has a global presence and a technological edge that no other country can yet match. But America will never again experience the global dominance it enjoyed in the 17 years between the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 and the financial crisis of 2008. Those days are over.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/02/think_again_american_decline?page=full
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.



Name me an Asian Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg or a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Intel in countries like China or Korea or anywhere in Asia.


So you're saying IT is everything? It's certainly an important field but no longer dominated by the U.S. You're still behind the times, dude.

U.S. poll: 21st century belongs to China
America will play lesser role, most say

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/26/20100226Poll-USChina0226.html

The United States still has formidable strengths. Its economy will eventually recover. Its military has a global presence and a technological edge that no other country can yet match. But America will never again experience the global dominance it enjoyed in the 17 years between the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 and the financial crisis of 2008. Those days are over.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/02/think_again_american_decline?page=full

These results come from a new Washington Post-ABC News poll conducted during a time of significant tension between Washington and Beijing.
Is that the best you can do?
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumdiary wrote:
Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.



Name me an Asian Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg or a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Intel in countries like China or Korea or anywhere in Asia.


So you're saying IT is everything? It's certainly an important field but no longer dominated by the U.S. You're still behind the times, dude.

U.S. poll: 21st century belongs to China
America will play lesser role, most say

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/26/20100226Poll-USChina0226.html

The United States still has formidable strengths. Its economy will eventually recover. Its military has a global presence and a technological edge that no other country can yet match. But America will never again experience the global dominance it enjoyed in the 17 years between the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 and the financial crisis of 2008. Those days are over.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/02/think_again_american_decline?page=full

These results come from a new Washington Post-ABC News poll conducted during a time of significant tension between Washington and Beijing.
Is that the best you can do?


At least more than your one-sentence response, that's for sure.
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hondaicivic



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
Yaya wrote:
hondaicivic wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
bcjinseoul wrote:

I can't speak for other nationals, but as an American, my country is the most entrepreneurial in the world. .


Which is why those entrepreneurs will set up shop in Asia and other non bankrupt countries. They are smart people. They know when a country is headed into an abyss of debt.

10 years from now we'll be using 100 dollar bills as toilet paper because they are worth so little.

Anyway back to the topic of employment prospects of ESLers.

It's not easy out there and ESL wonamins have very little to offer any employer in an English speaking country.



Which entrepreneurs would that be? I haven't seen any start up companies or a silicon valley in asia so far that would rival the US. China, Korea, and all those asian countries can do is just copy. New scientific discoveries and technological innovation will still be in the US. That's a fact. All you American haters can go on hating all you want. The 21st century will still be the American century.


Your post shows how little you know of the world. The 21st century will be the Dragon century, as in China's, despite that country's problems.



Name me an Asian Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg or a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Intel in countries like China or Korea or anywhere in Asia.


So you're saying IT is everything? It's certainly an important field but no longer dominated by the U.S. You're still behind the times, dude.

U.S. poll: 21st century belongs to China
America will play lesser role, most say

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/26/20100226Poll-USChina0226.html



I didn't say it's everything. It's one of the most important field though that's still dominated by the US. Have you been to silicon valley/San Francisco area lately? Start up companies are popping up everywhere, drawing the best entrepreneurs from around the world. Let's talk about other industry then shall we? Military/Weapons industry, the US still kicks ass. Pharmaceutical industry? Yep, still got it. Agricultural? The US is basically the bread basket of the world. 26% arable land with only 3-5% of the population. China will starve to death when all their arable land turn to desert due pollution. I'll concede to Asia when it comes to the auto industry and consumer electronics. Those things can be easily replicated and made at a low cost, which is what China and Korea is famous for.
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