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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| samcic wrote: |
Are you in Korea now?
| jfromtheway wrote: |
Hey, I sent mine to ApostillePros in February or March of this year (post January 1, 2011). I haven't been checking up on the CBC situation since then, but, like you, I never heard a case of anyone being rejected by K-town immigration and I tried to read everything I could on the issue beforehand. *Not saying it couldn't happen though.*
I also called ApostillePros four or five times before I sent them anything or paid them any money and they assured me the California notarization and apostille had never caused someone to be denied a visa for Korea.
Since my CBC came back without an official "seal" I would have had to send it back to the FBI for the seal (or notarization) and then to the State Department for the apostille, and that could have taken a long-ass time. So I just ate the couple hundo for the California notarization and apostille, which took about 3 or 4 days. As far as I know, some states apostille federal documents but others (like mine) don't. That's why I was curious about hearing if anyone had actually been denied a visa due to a State apostille on a federal document. |
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Not quite yet. Like I said, I have the visa in my passport, the purchased plane ticket, and I even know the name of the guy picking me up at Incheon.
Although there appears to be zero evidence that Korean immigration gives a hoot regarding the source of the apostille, you would be best off taking RMNC and my fellow non-seafood eating Vox's advice, and get the Federal apostille.
As soon as someone's visa gets denied for having a State apostille you will undoubtedly hear it here first. No one wants to be the first guy that happens to though.
Rushing your documents is secondary in all this (though I did it myself); finding the non-crappiest job you can, with the hours, location, and pay you want, is primary. This part took me way longer than the documents process. If you're expecting to have all those documents ready within the next few weeks or so (and even if you don't), lie to the recruiters (it's a sheisty pimpster game from both ends, use recruiters like hoes): Tell them that you're busy, don't have a scanner or work in an office, and will send them the scans when you're able to make it to Kinko's later next week. Put the pressure on them, push them to give you the teacher references and ask them to send you more info on the school and pictures of the housing. Entertain as many offers as you can before showing your cards.
There is maybe a 1-5% chance you will have a problem getting through with a State apostilled CBC *for now.* If I show up at the airport to find that my ticket has been canceled because they realized their regulatory error and invalidated my visa, the Dave's job board will be the first to know. That might not be a bad thing either, given the hit my resume will likely take in the long run as a result of this venture. Hope this helps. Now, le temps de boire. |
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Okay, this will be my final post on this question. If anyone wants further info from me, feel free to pm me. Otherwise, you're on your own and nobody can claim I didn't try to warn you.
Obtaining the apostille from ANY entity other than the Dept of State in DC is incorrect. Some Secretaries of State in state capitals basically stamp anything that comes across their desk. In their eyes, it's up to the bearer of the document to know whether or not they have the correct documentation. Now, bearing in mind that an apostille from a state capital has NEVER been the correct way to get your FBI documentation processed, many people in the past have done so and Korean Immigration accepted the documents. Well good for them! They got away with something! How exciting for them.
Anyway, the fact remains that AT ANY TIME, Korean Immigration may decide to cease accepting state apostilles on FBI checks. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you want to have the distinction of being the first person rejected for this reason? Won't you feel awfully silly when you realize you could SIMPLY have listened to wise old vox_populi (that's me) and just done it the right way from the beginning?
Why do I know these things? How is it that I am so smart and so many others aren't? Well, here's why:
I worked for 12 years in the passport/visa/documentation legalization industry prior to coming to Korea to teach English to the offspring of wealthy Koreans. During the final 4 years of that stretch, I was the documentation coordinator of the VERY busy documentation legalization branch of our office. We prided ourselves on doing the documents the right way every time. We did not cut corners (as certain companies have been known to do.........). Anyway, I've never had a document rejected and I've processed, LITERALLY, thousands of apostilles and international standard certificates (international standard certificates or ISC's are the documents issued to/by countries that are not signatories of the Hague Convention on Document Legalizations - such as Canada. The US and Korea are both signatories to this treaty and that is why we use apostilles.).
So there you have it. The what, the why and the how the heck I know.
You wanna risk it by saving a couple of days and going through Sacramento or Atlanta or wherever....BE MY GUEST! It doesn't bother me a bit. Feel free to do it. I can't wait till I start hearing of people moaning about how they just WISHED they'd heeded my advice.
And that's all I have to say on the matter.
Over and Out!! |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Vox_Populi wrote: |
Okay, this will be my final post on this question. If anyone wants further info from me, feel free to pm me. Otherwise, you're on your own and nobody can claim I didn't try to warn you.
Obtaining the apostille from ANY entity other than the Dept of State in DC is incorrect. Some Secretaries of State in state capitals basically stamp anything that comes across their desk. In their eyes, it's up to the bearer of the document to know whether or not they have the correct documentation. Now, bearing in mind that an apostille from a state capital has NEVER been the correct way to get your FBI documentation processed, many people in the past have done so and Korean Immigration accepted the documents. Well good for them! They got away with something! How exciting for them.
Anyway, the fact remains that AT ANY TIME, Korean Immigration may decide to cease accepting state apostilles on FBI checks. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you want to have the distinction of being the first person rejected for this reason? Won't you feel awfully silly when you realize you could SIMPLY have listened to wise old vox_populi (that's me) and just done it the right way from the beginning?
Why do I know these things? How is it that I am so smart and so many others aren't? Well, here's why:
I worked for 12 years in the passport/visa/documentation legalization industry prior to coming to Korea to teach English to the offspring of wealthy Koreans. During the final 4 years of that stretch, I was the documentation coordinator of the VERY busy documentation legalization branch of our office. We prided ourselves on doing the documents the right way every time. We did not cut corners (as certain companies have been known to do.........). Anyway, I've never had a document rejected and I've processed, LITERALLY, thousands of apostilles and international standard certificates (international standard certificates or ISC's are the documents issued to/by countries that are not signatories of the Hague Convention on Document Legalizations - such as Canada. The US and Korea are both signatories to this treaty and that is why we use apostilles.).
So there you have it. The what, the why and the how the heck I know.
You wanna risk it by saving a couple of days and going through Sacramento or Atlanta or wherever....BE MY GUEST! It doesn't bother me a bit. Feel free to do it. I can't wait till I start hearing of people moaning about how they just WISHED they'd heeded my advice.
And that's all I have to say on the matter.
Over and Out!! |
Wow wishing misfortune on people because you want to be right and feel all high and mighty. Sounds like and ego problem to me  |
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