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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
| Nah, I've never smoked (cigarettes) and my weight loss occurred many, many years ago (illness related). I was just thinking about the poor role model image that most teachers project in front of their impressionable students. If the shoe fits, wear it! |
You should probably look that one up, then try again. |
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travelnguy
Joined: 27 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| My school has a large no smoking sign on the front window of the building. However, it's not easily noticeable since most teachers stand there and smoke in front of it. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
| Nah, I've never smoked (cigarettes) |
So you smoked something else then? Not very role-model-like.
| Mikejelai wrote: |
| my weight loss occurred many, many years ago (illness related) |
An eating disorder? Also not good for the ideal role-model. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: |
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I challenge anyone reading this thread to recall a single instance of a K-12 teacher's lifestyle choices having any significant influence on who you are today.
Bet you cant. |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Nah, I never did any untoward behavior in front of my students - did try shisha (in a cafe) once when I worked in Dubai, though. I figured "what the Hell?"
And no eating disorder contributing to the weight loss many years ago (rather, TB contracted while volunteering in a prison in Cambodia).
Anyway, we could use more volunteer English teachers for the poor kids at the Seoul Global Center, if you have any free time. If you are obese, it is okay (I guess), but you won't be able to smoke/drink in front of the kids. They see enough of that at home........... |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:39 am Post subject: |
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schwa,
One quick example: my high school vocational/industrial educational teacher(whom we all worshiped) had a really bad nicotene addiction (chewing tobacco). A few years later, while playing sports at college, many teammates offered me chew/powdered tobacco. Thinking of my old HS teacher I had to say 'thanks, but no thanks."
Is that good enough? |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
schwa,
One quick example: my high school vocational/industrial educational teacher(whom we all worshiped) had a really bad nicotene addiction (chewing tobacco). A few years later, while playing sports at college, many teammates offered me chew/powdered tobacco. Thinking of my old HS teacher I had to say 'thanks, but no thanks."
Is that good enough? |
...so his use of chewing tobacco caused you to NOT use chewing tobacco?
...so students can learn from the "mistakes" or "flaws" of their teachers?
...so, to be an effective teacher, and influence students in a positive manner, one needn't be perfect? I mean, if your teacher HADN'T had the nicotine addiction, would you have felt the same compulsion to refuse? Wouldn't you have been a little closer to the middle of the road, without his object lesson?
I'll bet great teachers with other "problems" are still great teachers, too...and it seems like the "flaw" became a positive influence....wow.
Who'da thunkt it, huh? |
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Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
schwa,
One quick example: my high school vocational/industrial educational teacher(whom we all worshiped) had a really bad nicotene addiction (chewing tobacco). A few years later, while playing sports at college, many teammates offered me chew/powdered tobacco. Thinking of my old HS teacher I had to say 'thanks, but no thanks."
Is that good enough? |
Oi vey! So, according to you, we should all be obese smokers and our students won't turn out like us!
Mike, time to change your meds. You just obliterated your own arguement. 
Last edited by Mr. Peabody on Sun May 08, 2011 2:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Mikejelai wrote: |
And no eating disorder contributing to the weight loss many years ago (rather, TB contracted while volunteering in a prison in Cambodia).
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Still doesn't sound very healthy. Role-model teachers aren't supposed to get sick, ever. It's a sign of weakness, which is sub-par to the ideal.
That plus whatever it was you did smoke is two strikes against you. And now this Dubai incident comes to light. That's three strikes.
Mike, I'm not sure you're fit to teach here.
You are no doubt aware of how highly selective Korea is when choosing EFL teachers. Only the best get in. It's not something to take lightly. Now you think about that the next time you feel like crapping in a cafe. |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Peabody wrote: |
| Mikejelai wrote: |
schwa,
One quick example: my high school vocational/industrial educational teacher(whom we all worshiped) had a really bad nicotene addiction (chewing tobacco). A few years later, while playing sports at college, many teammates offered me chew/powdered tobacco. Thinking of my old HS teacher I had to say 'thanks, but no thanks."
Is that good enough? |
Oi vey! So, according to you, we should all be obese smokers and our students won't turn out like us!
Mike, time to change your meds. You just obliterated your own arguement. |
It sounds like the best thing I should do is get "caught smoking" by students now and then, and when my contract is winding up, start telling students that I got cancer and am going back to Canada to die. hahahha  |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like most of you are advocates for being poor role models for students, haha. Not me, give me a healthy teacher any day (if I'm a student).
As a student I always wanted to emulate a teacher who respected his/her own body, not some fat, coughing slob who smelled like an ash tray. But that is just me..........
Teaching well is only part of the teacher's job; being a good role model for our youth is another equally important part. Just ask any school administrator or parent. Of course, what you choose do in your free time, out of sight of the students is your own business. |
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Artris
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
I challenge anyone reading this thread to recall a single instance of a K-12 teacher's lifestyle choices having any significant influence on who you are today.
Bet you cant. |
One student slammed my fingers between two desks in grade school and when I reached over, in pain, to sooth my aching fingers another student stabbed me in the palm with a pencil.
I cried out in pain and walked up to the teacher. She said "Why do you do these things to yourself."
Another time I wrote an essay related to the management of my school (middle school this time) and, I must say, I did an excellent job. I showed it to one of my favorite teachers and asked her what she thought, and whether I should release it to the school board. She told me it was excellent and encouraged me to do what I thought was right.
I turned it in and trouble followed. Another teacher, one I trusted not much less than my favorite of the time, asked me if anyone had helped me with the essay. I told her that a teacher had proofread it for me. She insisted I tell her the name and would not let me leave (physically baring the exit) until I did. I made her promise (naively) not to tell anyone and not to 'get the other teacher fired'. She finally promised and I gave her the name.
It wasn't long before my favorite teacher found a new job.
Teachers certainly do have an impact on their students. I trust people far less (good lesson I suppose) after the second incident. The first incident reminds me that careless words can cause pain. I think her response was more painful than the pencil sticking out of my palm, in the long run.
One of the teachers was fat. At one point someone called her a witch and my response was 'we all know trolls can't fly'. The other teacher was quite pretty. Both were bad roll models. I've met quite a number of teachers as a child: I moved over 10 times and attended many different schools, private and public. Weight had absolutely nothing to do with the teachers I thought of as roll models.
I think it is natural for children to choose a trait from one person or another and try to emulate it. I think quite a few children at some point wanted to be like Babe Ruth for example. I doubt many of them were thinking of the beer gut at the time, or dying at a young age. |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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When someone made an ambiguous thread about looking up Mikejelai's past posts and the personal information they found contained in them last week, I partially did the same out of curiosity. If I remember right, this fool claims to have a Master's degree and a J.D. Anyone who has read his recent comments should feel pretty comfortable assuming this to be false.
Mikejelai is an insecure, reformed-fat pathological liar and fraud masquerading his phantasmal opinions as concepts worthy of debate. They are not, ignore this idiot. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Try not to smoke in front of your students. I smoke pretty much every break I get. I probably smell like a smokestack because you can only brush your teeth so much. I should probably cut down on that. |
Just use the breath freshener (spray variety), you can buy them from a Pharmacy for between 2-3500 won. They are pretty strong, easily enough to cover the smell of smoke anyway. It works fine for me and my non smoking female co-teachers are all happy which is a definite bonus. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| jfromtheway wrote: |
When someone made an ambiguous thread about looking up Mikejelai's past posts and the personal information they found contained in them last week, I partially did the same out of curiosity. If I remember right, this fool claims to have a Master's degree and a J.D. Anyone who has read his recent comments should feel pretty comfortable assuming this to be false.
Mikejelai is an insecure, reformed-fat pathological liar and fraud masquerading his phantasmal opinions as concepts worthy of debate. They are not, ignore this idiot. |
Well, having advanced degrees is no assurance that one is not an idiot...whether or not one has an advanced degree, one's arguments should be evaluated based on their own merits....
Just saying that even if the degree claims are true, contrary to your first paragraph, your second paragraph holds true. |
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