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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
If you had trouble finding quality girls back home, it's not because there are MORE or better here.
Why is it then Bloopity? Well, you see, most of you are losers (that's really how I feel about most foreigners in Korea--because it's true).
You couldn't get a good girl to like you back home. When you discovered your philosophy degree, social awkwardness, backpack, and hobo fashion couldn't land you a job back home, you decided to come to Korea ("Life's too short to stay in one place! Plus, [insert English speaking country] girls suck!" -- the lie you tell yourself and your friends).
Suddenly there are these girls who can't see how creepy you are (language barrier, lack of experience with foreigners, etc.), and ACTUALLY give you a chance! WOW! Your ego explodes and that's how a lot of posters on Dave's were created.
It's sometimes disgusting to me the thought process of some guys on this forum. A lot of posters have essentially equated the worth of a relationship strictly to getting some. Although I shouldn't be surprised--they probably feel like they have to make up for the 30 years of nothing back home.
Probably gonna get flamed for this, but be honest with yourselves, it's because it all rings true and hits way, way, way too close to home.
My main point: there are LOTS of awesome, beautiful girls back home--as there are here. |
LOL..one of the best posts on Dave's ever. One slight disagreement. This quote: "A lot of posters have essentially equated the worth of a relationship strictly to getting some"
ALL men want sex. Some want an emotional, monogamous committment with it and some don't. Little to disagree wtih the rest of the post though. DavesESL gold. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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elculbr wrote: |
It's interesting that you want to date,OP.
My friends and I aren't even interested in dating while we work in Korea. I've been here 8 months and haven't been attracted to any man here. Koreans are extremely unattractive to me (physically, socially, mentally, and culturally.) I also haven't been attracted to any Western man.
Actually there is a huge difference between Western men and women here.The majority of men coming here to date/sleep around/play the field. Most of the women I talk to here come to Korea not expecting to date at all, or they come here to be intentionally single.
Personally, I came here with extremely low expectations regarding my love life. I'm only here to make money for my next step in life.
I feel this difference in expectations between Western men and women should be addressed. I see so many posts on Daves ESL cafe from men who are criticizing/mocking women for not having boyfriends or not taking care of their appearance. That's because they don't want a boyfriend in Korea; they came here to be alone, they aren't attracted to the kinds of men here, and have absolutely no intentions of changing this situation.
The very idea that Western women come to Asia even expecting to date is funny.There's nothing here.Everyone knows that. Lol. No one goes to Asia to find a man..that's why god made Europe. |
Many of my female friends who came to Korea single had limited expectations (especially if they read forums) and have an 'I'll play it by ear and see what's here' view for the most part but once they've hit the bars, they were scoping for possible hot guys. They were disappointed by the selection for the most part (understandable given the number of LBHs here) but they were interested in a relationship IF it presented itself. I don't know many young, single 20 something western female who aren't interested in a relationship and chooses to spend a year abroad without dating. Even if they come wth the sole purpose of saving money. Especially good looking women who were used to being asked out or pursued back home. They expect to be pursued no matter where they are. Those that don't may be 'lying to themselves' about their dating expectations I think and its an excuse for not being able to attract even the loser guys. Just sayin' |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about that...most of the attractive western women generally had boyfriends who looked decent or alright IMO.
Quite a few come with ones.
I'm not sure why any reasonable women would come to Korea solely for money with next to no expectations of dating any local. Sounds likes a real prize
Also, quite a few of those single attrative women people mention here are dating Koreans.
I remember during SMOE orientation, the asian guys got laid like bandits.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think girls aren't so eager to yell out their yellow/jungle/brownie/ fever around guys.
I know korean women who like white foreigners exclusively who make it a point to hide that fact around me(I'm not white). So I wouldn't expect white women to name drop their K-boyfriends around most male expats they meet casually.
I'm susprised how many had k-boyfriends....some just don't date them any more becuase it was difficult. |
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humlae
Joined: 06 May 2010
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the people who suggested joining a group based on your interests. I've also found that I've met a lot of people in my 'local' area of Seoul just by going to the gym, my regular cafe etc and smiling and I think therefore looking approachable.
Seoul is definitely harder to meet people than smaller cities where there are more close knit expat communities, but much easier to meet Koreans who are very open minded (IMO).
I'm engaged to a Korean guy and we've been together for two years. We met through a mutual friend just randomly out one night, and I do think that if he hadn't been drinking already then he probably wouldn't have been quite as relaxed and easy to talk to as he was. We did really hit it off from the beginning and it was particularly because we share a love of travel and got talking about a lot of the same countries that we'd been to. Definitely meeting someone with common interests and great sense of humour was the most important factor for both of us.
Overall, I've found that I am approached more often here than at home by both Westerners and Koreans. I've met awesome guys and tools from both camps....so it just seems to be humanity, though I do find that these days (maybe I'm getting older), but Western guys seem to be getting worse with their behaviour here. When I first came to Korea (2008) I met a bunch of awesome people who came for the fun and adventure of living in another country and gaining the added bonus of being paid to do it. These days those people are hard to find, it's all just about the money and ease of the work. |
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thurst
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
If you had trouble finding quality girls back home, it's not because there are MORE or better here.
Why is it then Bloopity? Well, you see, most of you are losers (that's really how I feel about most foreigners in Korea--because it's true).
You couldn't get a good girl to like you back home. When you discovered your philosophy degree, social awkwardness, backpack, and hobo fashion couldn't land you a job back home, you decided to come to Korea ("Life's too short to stay in one place! Plus, [insert English speaking country] girls suck!" -- the lie you tell yourself and your friends).
Suddenly there are these girls who can't see how creepy you are (language barrier, lack of experience with foreigners, etc.), and ACTUALLY give you a chance! WOW! Your ego explodes and that's how a lot of posters on Dave's were created. |
so much truth shouldn't be allowed in one post. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Match |
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akcrono wrote: |
And after they get married are notorious for neglectful and visiting prostitutes (although it's probably not most, its more rampant than back home). Probably the result of that whipping you were talking about: their whole relationship and attraction was based on it and when it's gone, there's nothing else. Don't confuse working harder for sex with working harder at relationships. |
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Prostitution in South Korea is illegal,[1] but according to The Korea Women's Development Institute, the sex trade in Korea was estimated to amount to 14 trillion South Korean won ($13 billion) in 2007, roughly 1.6 percent of the nation's gross domestic product.[2][3] |
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In 2003, the Korean Institute of Criminology announced that 260,000 women, or 1 of 25 of young Korean women, may be engaged in the sex industry. However, the Korean Feminist Association alleged that from 514,000 to 1.2 million Korean women participate in the prostitution industry.[7] In addition, a similar report by the Institute noted that 20% of men in their 20s pay for sex at least four times a month,[8] with 358,000 visiting prostitutes daily.[9] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_South_Korea#Modern_prostitution |
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elculbr
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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minos wrote: |
I don't know about that...most of the attractive western women generally had boyfriends who looked decent or alright IMO.
Quite a few come with ones.
I'm not sure why any reasonable women would come to Korea solely for money with next to no expectations of dating any local. Sounds likes a real prize
Also, quite a few of those single attrative women people mention here are dating Koreans.
I remember during SMOE orientation, the asian guys got laid like bandits.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think girls aren't so eager to yell out their yellow/jungle/brownie/ fever around guys.
I know korean women who like white foreigners exclusively who make it a point to hide that fact around me(I'm not white). So I wouldn't expect white women to name drop their K-boyfriends around most male expats they meet casually.
I'm susprised how many had k-boyfriends....some just don't date them any more becuase it was difficult. |
Perhaps the experiences of white women are very different. But, as a non-white Western woman living in Korea, dating options are slim to none. I'm not alone in that; my Black and Brown female friends have had similar experiences. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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elculbr wrote: |
minos wrote: |
I don't know about that...most of the attractive western women generally had boyfriends who looked decent or alright IMO.
Quite a few come with ones.
I'm not sure why any reasonable women would come to Korea solely for money with next to no expectations of dating any local. Sounds likes a real prize
Also, quite a few of those single attrative women people mention here are dating Koreans.
I remember during SMOE orientation, the asian guys got laid like bandits.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think girls aren't so eager to yell out their yellow/jungle/brownie/ fever around guys.
I know korean women who like white foreigners exclusively who make it a point to hide that fact around me(I'm not white). So I wouldn't expect white women to name drop their K-boyfriends around most male expats they meet casually.
I'm susprised how many had k-boyfriends....some just don't date them any more becuase it was difficult. |
Perhaps the experiences of white women are very different. But, as a non-white Western woman living in Korea, dating options are slim to none. I'm not alone in that; my Black and Brown female friends have had similar experiences. |
Plenty of soldiers in King's club
The Kebab guys are single too!
I guess gain a taste for Korean guys? I know plenty who'd be interested in black girls. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Once you've had black, you never go back. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:34 am Post subject: |
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So when the guy lived in his home country he couldn't get laid,
therefore he came to a country where he would get laid.
Seems pretty clever to me. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
He had been waiting patiently for me, hoping that I'd break up with the other guy. |
Well, he was sure playing some long odds. I mean, he could have ended up waiting fifty-one years, nine months, and four days for you to break up with that other guy. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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isitts wrote: |
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
He had been waiting patiently for me, hoping that I'd break up with the other guy. |
Well, he was sure playing some long odds. I mean, he could have ended up waiting fifty-one years, nine months, and four days for you to break up with that other guy. |
Things worked out.  |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: |
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ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
You sound like a bunch of betas trying desperately to be alphas. Actually, you sound more like epsilons! |
What's after epsilon? |
Semi-moron, I believe. Unless epsilon includes semi-morons. Can't remember. |
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blackinque
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: |
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K-dudes feel inferior to western women. K-girls also feel the same towards western men, but that is a normal thing in a relationship as far as Asian culture goes, k-girls can cling to their oppa for protection. However, I guess for a K-man, being the dominating figure when put up against a western woman is difficult. To put it simple, they're often shy, insecure about their looks, about their English skill etc.
A few k-men I've asked about this said they don't think western women have any reason to be attracted to them. They lose their inhibitions fairly quickly in clubs though, so a good bet for girls is a night in a fairly high-rated Gangnam club. The ones that charge 20~30k won per entrance and are usually full of Koreans. |
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def PD
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I think being an attractive female (in Korea) is kind of a double-edged sword. One one hand, they have their pick of the litter, but for many guys they'll just be intimidated or too scared to approach them.
The unattractive female however has to work her ass off to get a guy to notice and talk to them.
Maybe you ladies need to do a little "work" and approach the guy(s) instead, take the initiative. Korean guys aren't the most aggressive (if that's what you're looking for). I know for me personally when a girl starts talking to me it immediate takes the edge off. A lot of guys actually prefer it (even if they deny it).
Beyond that I wouldn't know the first place for a girl to try and find a decent guy would be. Although I did hear about this thing called, "booking" which is supposed to be all the rage there. j/j
What's the mindset like for people finding dates online in Korea? I'm genuinely curious. I have no intention on doing that sort of thing but I am interested in maybe doing the language exchange thing since I'd like to up my abysmal Korean.
thurst wrote: |
Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
If you had trouble finding quality girls back home, it's not because there are MORE or better here.
Why is it then Bloopity? Well, you see, most of you are losers (that's really how I feel about most foreigners in Korea--because it's true).
You couldn't get a good girl to like you back home. When you discovered your philosophy degree, social awkwardness, backpack, and hobo fashion couldn't land you a job back home, you decided to come to Korea ("Life's too short to stay in one place! Plus, [insert English speaking country] girls suck!" -- the lie you tell yourself and your friends).
Suddenly there are these girls who can't see how creepy you are (language barrier, lack of experience with foreigners, etc.), and ACTUALLY give you a chance! WOW! Your ego explodes and that's how a lot of posters on Dave's were created. |
so much truth shouldn't be allowed in one post. |
I noticed this too the last time I was in Korea and Tokyo. Dudes be creeping and trying real hard to act fob cute.
And Thurst, you post on SRK by any chance as well? |
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