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Victor Spoils



Joined: 02 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Question about F-3 Visa for Spouse Reply with quote

Hello! I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question or I'm asking it in the wrong forum. I'm still a newcomer, so I hope you will take pity on me.

My university is in the process of applying for my E-2 visa. I've heard that they can apply for a F-3 visa for my wife at the same time, but for some reason the staff member I've talked to thinks it would be better for me to come to Korea first and apply for my wife's visa myself once I get there.

I'm American but my wife is Chinese, and we're both in our respective countries right now. This might be why the university staff doesn't want to deal with the hassle of getting both visas at the same time.

I'm worried that I might get to Korea and not be able to get a visa for my wife. I've looked through some of the other visa-related threads on this board, but very few of them are recent. So I thought I'd ask and see if anyone could offer any advice.

Has anyone else brought their Chinese wife to Korea on an F-3 visa? How did it go, and how long did it take to get everything worked out?

Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about F-3 Visa for Spouse Reply with quote

Victor Spoils wrote:
Hello! I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question or I'm asking it in the wrong forum. I'm still a newcomer, so I hope you will take pity on me.

My university is in the process of applying for my E-2 visa. I've heard that they can apply for a F-3 visa for my wife at the same time, but for some reason the staff member I've talked to thinks it would be better for me to come to Korea first and apply for my wife's visa myself once I get there.

I'm American but my wife is Chinese, and we're both in our respective countries right now. This might be why the university staff doesn't want to deal with the hassle of getting both visas at the same time.

I'm worried that I might get to Korea and not be able to get a visa for my wife. I've looked through some of the other visa-related threads on this board, but very few of them are recent. So I thought I'd ask and see if anyone could offer any advice.

Has anyone else brought their Chinese wife to Korea on an F-3 visa? How did it go, and how long did it take to get everything worked out?

Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it.


Given that you and your wife are not in the same country and you will not be applying for your visa together they are correct.

You will have to come to Korea.

You will have to obtain your ARC. (1-4 weeks depending on how long it takes you to get your medical done).

You will then apply for a visa confirmation number for your wife.
You will need to show proof of marriage (marriage certificate in English or Korean), your wife's passport information page, your ARC, proof of employment (employment certificate). The application is free.
Takes 4-7 working days.

When you get the number from immigration you then send it to her.
Takes 1 day (e-mail or sms/text message).

She will then go to the Korean embassy/consulate nearest her and apply for her visa.

She will need: the application form, passport, visa confirmation number, passport photos and the fee.
She may also require the necessary documents to exit China (if she is a Chinese national.)
Takes 4-7 working days if her paperwork is in order.

She will fly to Korea, enter and activate her F3. She then has 90 days to obtain her ARC.

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Victor Spoils



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much, ttompatz. Your information makes things a lot clearer for me. I really appreciate it.

I guess I have one more question. How much English do the staff in the immigration office usually speak? When we lived in Osaka we often had to deal with clerks who only spoke Japanese. That was fine because my Japanese ability is fair, but my Korean is so still basic that I wouldn't have a chance at explaining my situation.
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victor Spoils wrote:
Thank you very much, ttompatz. Your information makes things a lot clearer for me. I really appreciate it.

I guess I have one more question. How much English do the staff in the immigration office usually speak? When we lived in Osaka we often had to deal with clerks who only spoke Japanese. That was fine because my Japanese ability is fair, but my Korean is so still basic that I wouldn't have a chance at explaining my situation.


They speak enough English to accomplish what you need.

It isn't rocket science.

Fill in the forms, add the documents and hand it in.
1 week later you get the number and it is a done deal.
Nothing complex about it.

Oh, and the forms are bilingual Korean/English.

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mogbert



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar situation but what if my wife is already in Korea? Would she have to do a visa run to China or Japan or something?
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cherylyoung



Joined: 25 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can't apply for a confirmation number despite what others may have suggested. I've been told over and over again that in order for my husband to come to Korea on an F-3, he needs to apply in his home country. Seems to be misleading information on these discussion boards.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mogbert wrote:
I'm in a similar situation but what if my wife is already in Korea? Would she have to do a visa run to China or Japan or something?


If she is IN Korea then she just needs to show proof of family relationship and do a change of status.


cherylyoung wrote:
you can't apply for a confirmation number despite what others may have suggested. I've been told over and over again that in order for my husband to come to Korea on an F-3, he needs to apply in his home country. Seems to be misleading information on these discussion boards.


You, as a registered foreigner need to apply for the visa confirmation number here to bring your spouse over.

Then they need to apply for the visa while offshore.

There are some differences (restrictions) depending on WHERE your spouse is from (country of passport) and what your visa status is.

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guatetaliana



Joined: 07 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I have a similar question, except my husband is in Mexico. As a Mexican citizen, he is eligible for a 90 day tourist stay if admitted to South Korea. Can he enter with me and then apply for a change of status?

Or, even better yet, does anyone know of a reputable Korean immigration attorney to whom I can address questions about my family's potential with visas in Korea?

BTW, I know you're probably thinking "What Mexican male is going to enter South Korea and just be a dependent spouse?" but we're just different like that. We have a 2 year-old and my husband will be his primary caregiver. My recruiter had plenty of questions on this arrangement but was pretty convinced after discussing it that we really are happy doing things this way. My husband has actually been teaching English in Mexico for several years now and he is tired of that mess, so he's more than eager to just get to teach our son soccer skills and be my anchor at home as I adjust to a new teaching situation. Recruiter is convinced, she's pretty sure GEPIK schools can be convinced, so hopefully Korean immigration can be, too.


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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guatetaliana wrote:
OK, I have a similar question, except my husband is in Mexico. As a Mexican citizen, he is eligible for a 180 day tourist stay if admitted to South Korea. Can he enter with me and then apply for a change of status?

Or, even better yet, does anyone know of a reputable Korean immigration attorney to whom I can address questions about my family's potential with visas in Korea?

BTW, I know you're probably thinking "What Mexican male is going to enter South Korea and just be a dependent spouse?" but we're just different like that. We have a 2 year-old and my husband will be his primary caregiver. My recruiter had plenty of questions on this arrangement but was pretty convinced after discussing it that we really are happy doing things this way. My husband has actually been teaching English in Mexico for several years now and he is tired of that mess, so he's more than eager to just get to teach our son soccer skills and be my anchor at home as I adjust to a new teaching situation. Recruiter is convinced, she's pretty sure GEPIK schools can be convinced, so hopefully Korean immigration can be, too.


IF you are on an E2 then he can either get an F3 (after you get your ARC) and come to Korea that way or he can enter as a tourist and do a change of status (B2 to F3) after you get your ARC.

You will need proof of the marriage (certified copy of the wedding cert. in English or Korean) as well as your ARC and proof of Employment (certificate of employment).

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cherylyoung



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke with immigration helpline multiple times on different days, as well as went to the immigration office and was told I can't apply for a confirmation number (they didn't care about where he came from) They told me that's how it is, and always was. Only Chinese citizens can apply for confirmation number. I explained to them in that I wasn't trying to apply for my husbands visa, just needed to apply for a confirmation number, and the answer was still no.

I even told them that he NEEDS a confirmation number before applying for his visa but I was told that information is incorrect.

I don't know what I am missing here, but I guess your case is the exception to the rule.
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globalgourmand



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guatetaliana wrote:
Recruiter is convinced, she's pretty sure GEPIK schools can be convinced, so hopefully Korean immigration can be, too.


@guatetaliana- Do you mind to tell me which recruitment agency you are using? My agency has a NO dependant or married-applying-singly policy. It wasn't even open to discussion. I'll either have to omit him from my application to use my recruiter, or apply directly with EPIK and hope that they don't dislike my Statement of Intent and still consider me a viable applicant. OR I can find a recruiter who has some experience with applicants with dependants, which is what I'm focusing on at the moment.
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guatetaliana



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

globalgourmand, I'm working with Korvia. I really like them.


BTW, I'm pretty sure from my interpretation of the info on the Korean Immigration official website, that a B-2 visa holder can't change status inside Korea except in very extreme circumstances. So from what I'm seeing, the dependents must either enter Korea as tourists and make a visa run to another country, or they must wait back in their respective countries until the E-3 holder gets their ARC and gets the confirmation #s.
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globalgourmand



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@guateliana- That is my understanding as well. F3 from outside the country only and requires ARC first.

I might try to contact Korvia, thank you. Someone else suggested ESLstarter. I know a lot of people are using Korvia (including my cousin, who is married and applying singly-- a case that my recruiter also declined.) Don't know if thats a good or bad thing that their so busy...
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be a HECK of a lot easier for her to enter on a tourist visa and change it here. The Kroean embassy in Peru wanted MORE docs than were necessary, apostilliations, translations, the works. He came and got 90 days upon arrival. We had bought a ticket out of Korea that he could show to kimmi when he arrived, they never asked. went to kimmi three days later, 10 days after that he had his visa and ARC.

Only asked for our marriage cert, a letter from my employer and my ARC and passport.

cherylyoung wrote:
I spoke with immigration helpline multiple times on different days, as well as went to the immigration office and was told I can't apply for a confirmation number (they didn't care about where he came from) They told me that's how it is, and always was. Only Chinese citizens can apply for confirmation number. I explained to them in that I wasn't trying to apply for my husbands visa, just needed to apply for a confirmation number, and the answer was still no.

I even told them that he NEEDS a confirmation number before applying for his visa but I was told that information is incorrect.

I don't know what I am missing here, but I guess your case is the exception to the rule.


Right, you send all the info to him in China and then HE goes to the embassy, then they process the paperwork. At least that's what the embassy in Peru told us.

Look, if he can get a tourist visa, it's much easier to do things IN korea than at the emabssy.


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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guatetaliana wrote:
BTW, I know you're probably thinking "What Mexican male is going to enter South Korea and just be a dependent spouse?" but we're just different like that. We have a 2 year-old and my husband will be his primary caregiver. My recruiter had plenty of questions on this arrangement but was pretty convinced after discussing it that we really are happy doing things this way. My husband has actually been teaching English in Mexico for several years now and he is tired of that mess, so he's more than eager to just get to teach our son soccer skills and be my anchor at home as I adjust to a new teaching situation. Recruiter is convinced, she's pretty sure GEPIK schools can be convinced, so hopefully Korean immigration can be, too.


As someone in a similar situation, don't think it'll be that easy. I support my husband and have three other friends who do the same. It's tough. Many guys dont' like staying at home. While women would cook, clean, and do other housework, guys play computer games and surf the net. NOt saying that ALL guys are like that, but many are.

He may SAy it'll be easy and he wants to do it, but taking care of a child FT is hard, for both men and women. My husband was also eager to stay home, work on his business etc, he ended up leaving Korea after 3 months, and finally coming back after being back home for 5 months. I know, you're thinking, taht's not going to happen to me. And I hope it doesn't, but I've seen it happen many times. Or the couple starts fighting.

I'm also married to a Latino, expecting a baby in the fall. We've been married for over 5 years and this arrangement has definitely put a strain on our marriage.

You'll also have to ask about housing, as one rooms are the norm. I do know a couple who lived in a one room with their toddler for a year. It's hard.

Money is another issue. It's hard getting by on just one salary and it's hard for guys to see their wives bring in all the money, espeically since you said he worked before. If you've never been in the sitatuion where he's the househusband, it's hard enough in your country, but when you move to a completely foreign country it's even harder.

I'm not sure about your experience or quals, but try to avoid recruiters (like the plague) and apply directly to schools. Or unis if you're qualified. Get a good uni job and you could make nearly double what people in GEPIK do.

Adding a kid to the euqation complicates things as well, as you'll have to worry about schooling, communication and other fun things. If you're looking at just doing it for a year, then you dn't have to worry so much, but if you want to stay in Korea long term, you'd better do some serious planning. Just be prepared for the worse and if it doesn't happen, then at least you were prepared.
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