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anyone have info on the university hiring process?
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legrande



Joined: 23 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it makes sense that it could swing either way. The uni I'm at now is soooo much better in terms of how we're treated by both students and faculty compared to the technical college I was at before, it's basically night and day.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
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They'll hire the younger one who is single, and whom the students "relate to" better.


Our uni doesn't have this criteria.

Actually, we wouldn't hire anyone in their 20's...kind of an unwritten rule.

The window dressing thing is simply your opinion. I don't think it is true.


Scott, interesting that you say that. I knew someone at your school a few years ago and I was told that the most qualified applicants were not hired.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting TECO.

Did this person have access to the applicants files so they could accurately judge their respective qualifications? What ever the overal profile the schools was looking for in terms of qualification, experience?

Which positions are you talking about here: Instructor, Lecturer, Guest Professor?

These types of statements need to be backed up or at least from a source that had access to concrete facts. I am not saying you have wrong information TECO, I am just not all that sure about the reliability of your source.
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the last two years every person hired has been qualified. Qualified meaning they had a Masters in Ed, TESOL, or Linguistics...as well as previous uni experience.

A few years ago...well...was a few years ago. We get enough qualified candidates now that we don't have to hired anyone without a Masters.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say there is a difference in the employment market in recent years (2009 on) and before the economic meltdown.


Since the economic crisis, it has defintively been an employers market out there.

Before that, certain universities sometimes had trouble finding qualified applicants and sometimes they had to go with someone that they would not have hired normally.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
In the last two years every person hired has been qualified. Qualified meaning they had a Masters in Ed, TESOL, or Linguistics...as well as previous uni experience.

A few years ago...well...was a few years ago. We get enough qualified candidates now that we don't have to hired anyone without a Masters.


Scott,

Not only were a few Ph.D holders overlooked, but a non-native English speaking teacher with no experience teaching in Korea was hired.

I'm not sure what's going on over there now at Inha, but I wasn't impressed with what I was told.
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Mr. Peabody



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ph.D holders that want to teach conversational English to freshman in Korea are probably overlooked for very good reasons. Wink
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Peabody wrote:
Ph.D holders that want to teach conversational English to freshman in Korea are probably overlooked for very good reasons. Wink


Good point.
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not only were a few Ph.D holders overlooked, but a non-native English speaking teacher with no experience teaching in Korea was hired.




Not in the last couple of years...no non-native speakers were hired so I am not sure what you are talking about.

I can only talk about when I have been involved in the hiring process. And, yes, we haven't hired some Ph.d's...because we didn't think they were the best person for the job. When hiring, most qualified, means to us...the best teachers...that doesn't always mean the person with the most paper behind them.

But every person we have hired in the last two years has been qualified...the most qualified...is probably a matter of contention...but not by those on the hiring committee...
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