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kenglish



Joined: 10 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: techno mart- greyish black market (buyers beware!) Reply with quote

i just had to fight against the most amateur and stupefying bait and switch today from techno mart.

i should've suspected the ethicality of the sellers there the last time i took my computer there for a burnt cpu only to have the whole motherboard replaced because they said it was also burnt, but what happened to me today makes me think that my motherboard did not need replacing at all.

because i've come to conclusion that these guys are bunch of scammers.

see, i went to buy a projector screen last week, the one shop was pitching me ridiculous specs on a screen that's just not possible at it's price range, the other shop was trying to talk to me into buying a brand that i had no interest in, even by being assertive to where he was writing out a receipt for me when i kept on saying i wasn't even interested! the third shop looked promising- a young guy(scumbag), enthusiastic attitude, seemingly being honest by saying that the other shops don't carry the brand that i'm looking for and he's the one of the few in techno mart who does. so yeah, i pay a reservation fee and place an order, wait for several days longer than promised, stretching it to a whole week. the screen arrives today and it's not even the brand that i asked for.

in fact, it's a no brand cheapest of cheap that goes for 1/3 of the price of the brand that i had ordered. so i call the guy to have the delivery man send it back along with me on the passenger seat so that i can take back the reservation money (50000won)- simple enough. but his argument through the whole thing is what baffles me. it's so stupid yet he's also extremely serious about it. he's saying that i did not order the brand that i asked about! he's actually saying that i'm the one lying about the words that came out of my mouth! and his attitude through the whole thing, saying things like 'i don't wanna look at your face', 'yes you look stupid' (when i rhetorically asked if i look stupid enough that i don't even know what i ordered) and telling me to follow him to the atm and leaving the money in the slot saying 'you take it out'.

i've read here countless times that koreans can be immature a-holes but dang, is this the true face of korea i had looking at the other side of? immature a-holes indeed...

anyways, beware when you go to techno mart. those guys are unregulated private marketers so anything goes. now i know Sad
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the motherboard is older and not compatible with the CPU replacing it, you have to buy a new mobo too.

Sockets on motherboards at not super backwards compatible like ram slots and PCI ports. Unless you wanna buy an older CPU that maches that socket.

Techno mart is a better more upscale place and more "legit" than the yongsan dudes. I get the impression their policed a bit more(I've lived and worked next to it for years). Their rent is high, but nearly every shop since I came to Korea still has the same booth and owner so they have a rep to maintain.

You can maybe contact the help department of the complex there and report abuse.
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kenglish



Joined: 10 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh i didn't know i could report that. though i'd rather soon forget about the incident than drag it in my memory. and let's not forget how the cpu got fried in the first place- the guy who installed a new fan on it had spread too much thermal paste on it- also at technomart. here or yongsan, seoul needs something better than both of them.

another funny side note involves the delivery man. i'm too lazy to link at the moment but a while back i made a thread about the noisy grandma downstairs. well today finally i decided to post-it a please-shut-up note with a candy attached to it. anyways, along comes the delivery guy from technomart, and he steals the candy! lol.
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BadBadMan



Joined: 06 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, technomart merchants can feel like chinese hagglers sometimes (two stereotypes in one sentence! Very Happy )

I try to stay away from technomart and yongsan unless I can get solid documentation beforehand, like with online ordering. Their scamming techniques are pretty good - like they'll sell you a camera for cheap but charge 5 times the going price for SD memory..lol

I tend to see, though, that the more popular booths with lots of customers are too busy to try scamming you all the time and will generally be more honest.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I always order online, Gmarket or Danawa, just to avoid the hassle.
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you understand what the terms Yong-pari and Teh-pari mean, you've lived in this country long enough.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
If you understand what the terms Yong-pari and Teh-pari mean, you've lived in this country long enough.

I don't understand these terms, but I do know that the traders at TechnoMart are outrageous rip-off merchants who will rob you blind and hang you out to dry if they think they can get away with it. I didn't know you could report abuse / scams to the complex help office (good tip), if I had known that last time I was shoping there I would have said something about the outrageous bait and switch a trader tried to pull on me whan I was looking at sat-navs. Outright thievery! Luckily I was with a slightly less trusting friend and we realised that the product he was showing us was definitely NOT the same as the P.o.S he was trying to sell us.
I also got sold some FLAT AA batteries at a swish electronics shop in the Yongsan Station complex. The trader and his wife would not give me back my couple of dollars when I put the batteries in my camera and plainly saw they were flat, so I threw some coins on the floor of their shop and told them that my mum is a white mudang and that their love of money was so overpowering that when they picked up the coins they would be cursed with eternal poverty. I don't believe it myself, but it made me feel better and I got a bit of drama - if not batteries - for my couple of dollars.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
yeah, I always order online, Gmarket or Danawa, just to avoid the hassle.

You do realize a lot of the vendors on those sites are the same as the vendors at Yongsan...
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nick70100



Joined: 09 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
DaHu wrote:
yeah, I always order online, Gmarket or Danawa, just to avoid the hassle.

You do realize a lot of the vendors on those sites are the same as the vendors at Yongsan...


Sure they are, but they can't screw with people as easily online. They have to list a set price, no haggling necessary. You never have to deal with their attitudes or the pressure to buy a different "better" model or to buy cables, memory cards, carrying cases, etc that you don't need. If there is ever a problem that the seller won't take care of there is a clear series of steps to go through with the site operator to get it resolved/refunded.

So you're right they are the same people, but the experience is completely different.
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe becuase I speak korean, but they're not that bad at all....Try china or...the seoul flea market....


Those folks rather spit at you than haggle sometimes and will. Them old folks is crazy!
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
yeah, I always order online, Gmarket or Danawa, just to avoid the hassle.



Me too. Technomart and Yongsan are not customer friendly places. Lots of shady stuff going on.

Just get a Korean friend or co-worker to order online for you and pay them cash if you can't order online yourself.......don't worry about bothering them. They will get online mall points and/or coupons for their trouble.
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
DaHu wrote:
yeah, I always order online, Gmarket or Danawa, just to avoid the hassle.



Me too. Technomart and Yongsan are not customer friendly places. Lots of shady stuff going on.

Just get a Korean friend or co-worker to order online for you and pay them cash if you can't order online yourself.......don't worry about bothering them. They will get online mall points and/or coupons for their trouble.


Well, you *can* shop successfully at either Technomart or Yongsan ( and I'm sure you know how Eamo, not directed at you) but you have to do your research online beforehand in order not to get scammed.

What I would do, after a couple years in country and finally discovering sites like daniwa, was do my research, find the actual stores address and their advertised price, print it off from their website, and take it in hand to buy whatever I was going to buy.

This ensures that A) they can't tell you they don't have it (they're advertising it) and B) they can't jerk you around on price.

However, there are a couple things to remember. If you're looking at buying some fancy, cutting-edge tech (I use the term loosely, basically, anything new to the Korean market) you should be aware that vendors will actually steer you away from what you're trying to buy. They do this because they have an overstock of out-dated inventory that they will try to unload on you before they start selling the new stuff.

Case in point: A couple years ago I was helping a buddy buy a camera. We decided on an Olympus, a fancy point and shoot just a step down from a dSLR. Anyway, it was new to Korea, but we'd looked up several stores in Yongsan that claimed to carry it.

We went to a couple but they happened to be closed, so we walked around asking various camera shops if they had it and were told by various places, "No, we don't have that because Koreans don't like Olympus. How about you try last years Fuji that has way worse specs for the same price." Also, "Nobody in Yongsan carries Olympus cameras."

We got this runaround from about a half-dozen vendors before we found a guy willing to sell us the camera.

Now, I don't run my own business, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that turning away a customer who is trying to throw money at you is not a good business practice.

In any case, do your research online and you shouldn't have too many problems getting ripped off in the future.

ps. Incidentally, I found that while a lot of stores don't want to deal with you when you have a price list, some of them are quite happy that they can just make a quick sale and get you in, get your money, and get you out with a minimal of fuss. I tended to go back to those guys.

pps. If you go off the beaten track in Yongsan (meaning, stay away from the iPark mall) you'll have much better luck in finding decent vendors. The guys in iPark mall primarily play on fresh off the boat foreigners and will attempt to scam you more than the guys in the older electronics plazas.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ yeah sure it's possible to get what you want in Yongsan if you do your research and do the legwork.

I think it's just easier to do it online.

You're also correct that Yongsan dealers will always try to sell you the mainstream item that they have in stock rather than send you where you might get the item you want. Not a big sin though. Their problem is that they lazily only bother to stock mainstream models.

The Yongsan warehouses bulk-buy thousands of what they think will be the mainstream product. Many Koreans like Canon so they'll stock millions of mid-range Canon cameras and not bother with niche, high-end camera brands or models. Only the occasional vendor here and there who has a rep among enthusiasts will bother to get the good stuff in.

Online though, you can browse every camera, or whatever, from the cheapest to the most expensive and see the prices too.
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Adam Carolla



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
^ yeah sure it's possible to get what you want in Yongsan if you do your research and do the legwork.

I think it's just easier to do it online.


Skipped over the rest of your post because I don't think we disagree. The problem I had with online shopping was it would actually take longer for my wife to order the stuff online than for me to physically travel to Yongsan and buy the stuff in person.
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're prices are actually fair....

Unless they think your a moron, nobody is gonna try to sell you anthing at 50%+ markup. They're fairly cut throat with each other.
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