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		| AnAmericaninSeoul 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reduced Pay During Training |   |  
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				| I am currently being offered a position in Seoul with 2 weeks of training not included in the contract. I was told by a teacher at the school that the pay during training was significantly lower during this period. I have already asked the school what I would be paid during this time period and should receive a response tonight. I have not experienced anything like this in former jobs in the US. 
 Is this normal? If so, what is considered to be normal pay for training?
 
 
 Cliffs: School reducing pay for training to amount unknown at the moment. Is this normal?
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		| CentralCali 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's bogus. Go with another outfit. The day you enter Korea with them as your sponsor is the day your employment period begins. |  | 
	
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		| ontheway 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Reduced Pay During Training |   |  
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	  | AnAmericaninSeoul wrote: |  
	  | I am currently being offered a position in Seoul with 2 weeks of training not included in the contract. I was told by a teacher at the school that the pay during training was significantly lower during this period. I have already asked the school what I would be paid during this time period and should receive a response tonight. I have not experienced anything like this in former jobs in the US. 
 Is this normal? If so, what is considered to be normal pay for training?
 
 
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 What is normal is to receive no training at all.  Among the schools that do any training, it's common to pay at very low hourly rates, reduced salary or no pay at all.
 
 There are some schools that have training and pay at your standard salary or hourly rate, but this seems to be rare.
 
 You will have to choose whether "normal" or "common" is good enough or whether to hold out for something better.
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		| Krishire 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I think it really depends on if you like the position/school/local area. Two weeks isn't too bad and it certainly isn't unheard of. But it is a bit of a pain in the neck. But if you found a wonderful placement (as in, you have spoken with a current teacher and they just -love- it), I wouldn't toss it over two weeks. 
 But other concerns I'd have;
 Where do you stay for the two weeks? Is it fully paid?
 
 Do you have to pay your own transportation?
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		| northway 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Is the school CDI? |  | 
	
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		| Ramen 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | northway wrote: |  
	  | Is the school CDI? |  
 but of course.
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		| Wiltern 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | northway wrote: |  
	  | Is the school CDI? |  
 I heard CDI training is 1 week, not 2.
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		| tophatcat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Be prepared for the school to find ways to reduce more of your pay over the coming year. |  | 
	
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		| AnAmericaninSeoul 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | tophatcat wrote: |  
	  | Be prepared for the school to find ways to reduce more of your pay over the coming year. |  
 This is what I am afraid of. I let them know today that I need the training to be included in the contract period and the other day I needed to ask for them to include the pension in the contract. So far, this has been done without a problem. As long as I have my pay and hours stipulated in the contract, there should be no other problems in this regard... Right?
 
 I have contacted another teacher and he seems to be satisfied with the school with the exception of the hard work involved with teaching children. I am the type who doesn't mind earning my pay so this doesn't seem to be a big concern for me.
 
 Thank you all for your insight!
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		| Ramen 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | AnAmericaninSeoul wrote: |  
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	  | tophatcat wrote: |  
	  | Be prepared for the school to find ways to reduce more of your pay over the coming year. |  
 This is what I am afraid of. I let them know today that I need the training to be included in the contract period and the other day I needed to ask for them to include the pension in the contract. So far, this has been done without a problem. As long as I have my pay and hours stipulated in the contract, there should be no other problems in this regard... Right?
 
 I have contacted another teacher and he seems to be satisfied with the school with the exception of the hard work involved with teaching children. I am the type who doesn't mind earning my pay so this doesn't seem to be a big concern for me.Thank you all for your insight!
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 good for you.
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		| OculisOrbis 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Also be prepared to not have a job if you dont pass the training period if it's CDI.  There is always a few people that they dont like/arent very good and they get canned at the end of the training period...... |  | 
	
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		| WadRUG'naDoo 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ha! 
 "We'll pay you a lower rate for training because we're making you more of an asset to us."
 
 What?
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