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BigBuds
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As said above, if it's a study room then only a Korean can teach there even if a foreigner owns it. Study room = no foreigners can work there.
If it's a hagwon, then Koreans and foreigners alike can work there. Hagwon = Koreans and foreigners can work there.
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally but you can't work in a study room. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| As said above, if it's a study room then only a Korean can teach there even if a foreigner owns it. Study room = no foreigners can work there. |
That's false.
I know several people who own and work in their study room. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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joing the hagwon association!
you must learn all the tricks and sleezy ways to cheat on taxes and screw ft's you may or may not hire.  |
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sofaking
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
And that is what we call a STUDY ROOM. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| sofaking wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
And that is what we call a STUDY ROOM. |
No those are different. You could take that tutors license and go teach somewhere else if you want as well. 공부방 (Study room) is an actual licensed and taxed thing. |
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sofaking
Joined: 30 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
And that is what we call a STUDY ROOM. |
No those are different. You could take that tutors license and go teach somewhere else if you want as well. 공부방 (Study room) is an actual licensed and taxed thing. |
I assume that is what is meant by LEGALLY... so where am I wrong?
Tompatz's advice is pretty much exactly right. Although it only took about 10 days to get everything done in my case.
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| sofaking wrote: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
And that is what we call a STUDY ROOM. |
No those are different. You could take that tutors license and go teach somewhere else if you want as well. 공부방 (Study room) is an actual licensed and taxed thing. |
I assume that is what is meant by LEGALLY... so where am I wrong? |
A tutoring license and a study room license are two entirely different things with different regulations and benefits surrounding them. |
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sofaking
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:59 am Post subject: |
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A tutoring license and a study room license are two entirely different things with different regulations and benefits surrounding them. |
That's great news.... but are we not talking about getting a license to teach from home? Therefore, it would be called a STUDY ROOM.
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You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| As said above, if it's a study room then only a Korean can teach there even if a foreigner owns it. Study room = no foreigners can work there. |
That's false.
I know several people who own and work in their study room. |
Then they are technically doing it illegally. Under Korean education department rules/laws, waeguks can't have one.
Wouldn't be the first time someone at a Korean government department didn't have a clue and gave them the okay for it.
I'd advise your friends to double check on that, unless the law has changed in the last 2 or 3 years.
I also have a friend (foreigner) who owns one and he's not allowed to work there. This is in Kyoungsangnamdo. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| sofaking wrote: |
| crossmr wrote: |
A tutoring license and a study room license are two entirely different things with different regulations and benefits surrounding them. |
That's great news.... but are we not talking about getting a license to teach from home? Therefore, it would be called a STUDY ROOM.
| BigBuds wrote: |
You can get however, a tutors license and teach privates from home legally |
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No it wouldn't.
You can use a tutors license to teach privates from home, but that is not a study room. A study room is the name of a specific type of business, and meeting a private student in your living room is not the same thing.
with a study room, your spouse can also be registered to teach there.
You cannot do that with a tutoring license.
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Then they are technically doing it illegally. Under Korean education department rules/laws, waeguks can't have one.
Wouldn't be the first time someone at a Korean government department didn't have a clue and gave them the okay for it.
I'd advise your friends to double check on that, unless the law has changed in the last 2 or 3 years.
I also have a friend (foreigner) who owns one and he's not allowed to work there. This is in Kyoungsangnamdo. |
No, they're not. They're the legally registered owners and workers at the business, and lots of officials have been by to check on things. It's perfectly legal for F-series to own and work at those. |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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If you want E-2's to advise you about what you can and cannot do on an F visa, you've come to the right place. If you want to discuss owning and working in a study room at home or in a small commercial property, you can head over to AFEK and hear from countless people who are doing it. Legally.
For the record: the only person allowed to legally teach in a study room is the owner. If a foreigner owns the room and has the licence, they can teach. If they don't they can't.
With an F-2-1 (spousal) visa you can do almost everything a Korean can do. With an F-5 you can do everything except vote for president as long as you meet the criteria (language/qualifications being the main obstacle for most things).
If you have heard differently, you have heard wrong. Don't take my word for it though... |
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wooden nickels
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: |
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If you want E-2's to advise you about what you can and cannot do on an F visa, you've come to the right place. If you want to discuss owning and working in a study room at home or in a small commercial property, you can head over to AFEK and hear from countless people who are doing it. Legally.
For the record: the only person allowed to legally teach in a study room is the owner. If a foreigner owns the room and has the licence, they can teach. If they don't they can't.
With an F-2-1 (spousal) visa you can do almost everything a Korean can do. With an F-5 you can do everything except vote for president as long as you meet the criteria (language/qualifications being the main obstacle for most things).
If you have heard differently, you have heard wrong. Don't take my word for it though... |
I was told, by the Education Authorities/Officials, the only person allowed to work in a study room is the licensed owner. This was the word I received approximately 2 years ago, in my district. Things may be different now. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
| Scouse Mouse wrote: |
If you want E-2's to advise you about what you can and cannot do on an F visa, you've come to the right place. If you want to discuss owning and working in a study room at home or in a small commercial property, you can head over to AFEK and hear from countless people who are doing it. Legally.
For the record: the only person allowed to legally teach in a study room is the owner. If a foreigner owns the room and has the licence, they can teach. If they don't they can't.
With an F-2-1 (spousal) visa you can do almost everything a Korean can do. With an F-5 you can do everything except vote for president as long as you meet the criteria (language/qualifications being the main obstacle for most things).
If you have heard differently, you have heard wrong. Don't take my word for it though... |
I was told, by the Education Authorities/Officials, the only person allowed to work in a study room is the licensed owner. This was the word I received approximately 2 years ago, in my district. Things may be different now. |
It may vary from office to office, but there are F-series who own the business and registered their spouse to teach at their study room in addition to themselves. Both people have to be living at the residence where the study room is licensed from what I've read. |
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meangradin
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| without getting too personal, I am curious as to what you are legally able to charge with either the tutors license or the home school. When I looked in to the home school route, the local education office said I had to post my rates in the room I taught in and those rates could not exceed 4,000 an hour per student. suffice to say, at those rates, it was not worth it. has this changed? |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| meangradin wrote: |
| without getting too personal, I am curious as to what you are legally able to charge with either the tutors license or the home school. When I looked in to the home school route, the local education office said I had to post my rates in the room I taught in and those rates could not exceed 4,000 an hour per student. suffice to say, at those rates, it was not worth it. has this changed? |
last I'd heard the courts ruled that its unconstitutional for them to try to limit the fees. They can only make the businesses post them amounts. However, some offices will still try to encourage limits. |
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