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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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 Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Tigerstyleone wrote: |
I want northway to post a link that clearly states that Korean immigration requires that the apostille must come from the same state !
But you know what? He can't. Do you know why? |
You didn't specify what you were looking for. I don't have a link to that, and I'm not going to stand by it, but that was my understanding based on things I was reading awhile back. I very well might be wrong. If so, I stand corrected, but I've heard stories of a lot of people running around to get their documents notarized in the state of origin. If anyone has personally used an apostille from a different state, I stand corrected (and if you could have testified to that already, then why bother with the flaming?).
I can speak to the fact that in Canada they say you have to get your diploma notarized in one of the provinces covered by the consulate that covers your university, then use that same consulate to get it authenticated. This may not be a hard and fast rule, but that's the official line I got from the Montreal consolate.
And, IIRC, back when I got my first background check, it had to be apostilled by the agency of the state it was issued in (though this was more than two years ago, so I don't remember precisely if I could have gotten it done elsewhere).
Regardless, the general thrust of my point stands: you don't need to worry about getting a huge color copy of your diploma, a small black and white copy will suffice. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Notarizing Diploma |
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My first post...Ok, I've done about all the searching I can possibly do in the last few weeks and have yet to find any helpful information on how to go about getting my diploma notarized.
Several notaries that I've asked have said it would be "impossible" to notarize my degree because a notary's purpose is to verify the authenticity of signatures. Since my signature is not on my diploma, they say they cannot notarize it. Now, clearly this is not the case, but what exactly should I be asking for? Who should I go to?
This is incredibly frustrating. I've had my CBC for weeks and this is the only thing holding the process up. I just want to go to Korea!
I apologize for the frustration evident in this post, but all this paperwork is kind of a pain in the butt. Any help would be much appreciated. |
Order a diploma copy from your registrar and on the order form (that you should be able to print out) indicate it has to be notarized. The registrar has to be the one to get your diploma notarized (while it's still in thier possession). You might just call your registrar or email him/her. Otherwise for all a notary knows, it could be a Khao San special that you picked up in Thailand. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Notarizing Diploma |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| pedrotaves wrote: |
My first post...Ok, I've done about all the searching I can possibly do in the last few weeks and have yet to find any helpful information on how to go about getting my diploma notarized.
Several notaries that I've asked have said it would be "impossible" to notarize my degree because a notary's purpose is to verify the authenticity of signatures. Since my signature is not on my diploma, they say they cannot notarize it. Now, clearly this is not the case, but what exactly should I be asking for? Who should I go to?
This is incredibly frustrating. I've had my CBC for weeks and this is the only thing holding the process up. I just want to go to Korea!
I apologize for the frustration evident in this post, but all this paperwork is kind of a pain in the butt. Any help would be much appreciated. |
Order a diploma copy from your registrar and on the order form (that you should be able to print out) indicate it has to be notarized. The registrar has to be the one to get your diploma notarized (while it's still in thier possession). You might just call your registrar or email him/her. Otherwise for all a notary knows, it could be a Khao San special that you picked up in Thailand. |
Not all universities will do this long-distance. My diploma was notarized by a notary, not the university itself. |
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Tigerstyleone
Joined: 01 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Of course a university can't notarize your diploma. It has to be done by a state certified notary.
However,
Every university regstrar has a notary in their office and they can and will notarize your diploma per your request. |
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lopare152
Joined: 05 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| imGosu wrote: |
I think your suppose to get a notary saying that its a correct and true copy of the original diploma.
This costs 5$ and every notary place does this. Just come in with a copy of your diploma and your original and they will notarize it saying its a REAL copy.
I'm sure that EPIK is making you do this since most people don't want to send original's and just show a notarized copy.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
You have to be careful; not every state will notarize copies. Mine won't. But sending a copy of your diploma for your school to notarize instead is no big deal.
Haven't gotten to the apostillization stage yet, though. I'm guessing my state won't give out apostilles for copies either. So off to DC it'll go with my CBC? Too bad because my state charges a DOLLAR per document. :-O |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| imGosu wrote: |
I think your suppose to get a notary saying that its a correct and true copy of the original diploma.
This costs 5$ and every notary place does this. Just come in with a copy of your diploma and your original and they will notarize it saying its a REAL copy.
I'm sure that EPIK is making you do this since most people don't want to send original's and just show a notarized copy.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
You have to be careful; not every state will notarize copies. Mine won't. But sending a copy of your diploma for your school to notarize instead is no big deal.
Haven't gotten to the apostillization stage yet, though. I'm guessing my state won't give out apostilles for copies either. So off to DC it'll go with my CBC? Too bad because my state charges a DOLLAR per document. :-O |
This makes no sense. Assuming you went to university in your home state, notarization is a state process, therefore any notarization that your university would do would be done by someone doing it on behalf of the state. |
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lopare152
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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| imGosu wrote: |
I think your suppose to get a notary saying that its a correct and true copy of the original diploma.
This costs 5$ and every notary place does this. Just come in with a copy of your diploma and your original and they will notarize it saying its a REAL copy.
I'm sure that EPIK is making you do this since most people don't want to send original's and just show a notarized copy.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
You have to be careful; not every state will notarize copies. Mine won't. But sending a copy of your diploma for your school to notarize instead is no big deal.
Haven't gotten to the apostillization stage yet, though. I'm guessing my state won't give out apostilles for copies either. So off to DC it'll go with my CBC? Too bad because my state charges a DOLLAR per document. :-O |
This makes no sense. Assuming you went to university in your home state, notarization is a state process, therefore any notarization that your university would do would be done by someone doing it on behalf of the state. |
It does make sense, because that's the law. Why assume anyone went to university in their home state? I didn't, for example. |
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northway
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| It does make sense, because that's the law. Why assume anyone went to university in their home state? I didn't, for example. |
I wasn't assuming, necessarily, but what does someone in your home state do? |
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Abacus
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| lopare152 wrote: |
You have to be careful; not every state will notarize copies. Mine won't. But sending a copy of your diploma for your school to notarize instead is no big deal.
Haven't gotten to the apostillization stage yet, though. I'm guessing my state won't give out apostilles for copies either. So off to DC it'll go with my CBC? Too bad because my state charges a DOLLAR per document. :-O |
My understanding is the state that the university is located will apostille your diploma (copy) provided that it is notarized by someone within the same state. This is all very confusing but I'm almost certain that the federal gov't will not apostille your state issued diploma. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| My understanding is the state that the university is located will apostille your diploma (copy) provided that it is notarized by someone within the same state. This is all very confusing but I'm almost certain that the federal gov't will not apostille your state issued diploma. |
The diploma has to be apostilled? |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I know this is extremelt frustating for people!!
FIRST-it depends on the country you're from! Each country has different rules.
SECOND-I am American, and just recently went through this process with 2 degrees form 2 different states.
THIRD-it depends on the state! My Bachelor's is from Michigan, and my Masters's from Pennsylavania.
I will tell you what I know-
A previous poster mentioned that K-immi doesn't care about whether the degree or apostille was from the same state your degree was issued.
That could very well be true, but that is not where that issue comes up.
It's the NOTARY or the APOSTILLE agency who, in most cases, will not notarize or apostille from a different state
That was the case in BOTH MI and PA-I don't know about other states, but chances are pretty good it's the same deal.
Here's another thing--mainly due to wording--that has caused a lot of confusion.
A Notary CANNOT notarize a degree! All they can do is notarize a SIGNATURE! And in most cases, you have to do it in person--I did.
Now I'm sure there are some exceptions, for example:if you're in Korea already and can't do it in person.
I had to travel to MI amd PA and do both notarizations in person.
As I said before-diff states, diff rules.
Here's the basic jist of it--You are stating(on paper) that "this is a true and correct copy of---------. You sign it and then the notary signs verifying your signature. The notary should also use an official stamp.
You can then send them to that particular states DOS for apostille, or you can just go there and have it done in person.
As I said, I don't know about other states, and I'm sure there are some exceptions as well as 'tricks' or ways around certain things.
I hope this helps clarify a few things for a few people; I'm sure it won't for everyone.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU!
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