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mellow-d
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 Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:22 am Post subject: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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I had dinner with my Korean teacher Tuesday night. She is really interested in moving away from Korea. She is currently finishing her PhD in French language and is really worried that she won't get a job in Korea because of all the competition. So basically she can speak three languages fluently and I was hoping I could suggest a program to her to help her get overseas possibly to Montreal. There are quite a few Koreans living in Montreal so I though there could be something for someone with her skills.
I was looking into the Working Holiday program but she would have to be under 30 (and I think she could be around 31-32)
Is there anything else that I could suggest to her that you guys know of?
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Mr. Peabody
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Marry her?  |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Having lived in Montreal, I can say that its Korean population is actually quite small. |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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| mellow-d wrote: |
I had dinner with my Korean teacher Tuesday night. She is really interested in moving away from Korea. She is currently finishing her PhD in French language and is really worried that she won't get a job in Korea because of all the competition. So basically she can speak three languages fluently and I was hoping I could suggest a program to her to help her get overseas possibly to Montreal. There are quite a few Koreans living in Montreal so I though there could be something for someone with her skills.
I was looking into the Working Holiday program but she would have to be under 30 (and I think she could be around 31-32)
Is there anything else that I could suggest to her that you guys know of?
Thanks! |
What makes her think she's gonna get a job in North America?....You do realize that we're still in a recession right? Her PhD from Korea won't mean jack in Canada/US. She'll end up working as a waitress or at a nail salon. Sorry, nothing personal but I'm just telling you the truth here. A lot of Koreans/Asians (who hates the US/Canada yet would jump at the chance of getting a green card or passport) dream of coming here because they know deep down their country suck due to its rigid hierarchical system that prevents them moving up socially and economically. |
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tukmax
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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| mellow-d wrote: |
I was looking into the Working Holiday program but she would have to be under 30 (and I think she could be around 31-32)
Is there anything else that I could suggest to her that you guys know of?
Thanks! |
Are you sure the age limit for Koreans on the WHV for Canada is 30? I was helping my friend from France get the WHV for Canada and the age limit for French citizens is 35. Also, even if it is 30 I believe they can apply up until the day before their 31st birthday, so that might give her some time to get the application in. |
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Lazio
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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OP,
PM sent! |
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mellow-d
Joined: 07 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, the age limit for some countries is 35 but for Korea, it is still 30. I will still send her the info anyway. But to the above posters, I offered to look for something since she's interested in spending some time abroad. I'm sure she wouldn't be interested in nail salons or restaurants! I know the population of Koreans isn't massive in Montreal but I thought being able to speak French, English and Korean would help her get into some sort of program. What about language or culture programs for international students?
In regards to her university not be credible, I know an Iranian refugee who came to Canada and got an amazing job as a translator for the Federal Government. Sometimes, having special skills can put you above the rest. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| I know the population of Koreans isn't massive in Montreal but I thought being able to speak French, English and Korean would help her get into some sort of program. What about language or culture programs for international students? |
It's possible there would be something like that, I suppose, but remember that there are only two English speaking schools in Montreal (McGill and Concordia) and only three in all of Quebec (Bishop's being the other). I assume you're suggesting programs for Korean international students, but Koreans aren't exactly banging down the door to go to French speaking universities, let alone in Quebec, and you don't have the English seekers that you get in the rest of Canada. McGill has a Korean population of around 400, I believe, which isn't really enough to provide much of a basis in terms of student programs (not to mention the fact that student programs are few and far between in a province with a dirt poor education system).
Sorry if I sound overly negative, I just don't see a lot of options available in Montreal (I can't speak to the rest of Quebec). Best of luck. |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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| mellow-d wrote: |
I had dinner with my Korean teacher Tuesday night. She is really interested in moving away from Korea. She is currently finishing her PhD in French language and is really worried that she won't get a job in Korea because of all the competition. So basically she can speak three languages fluently and I was hoping I could suggest a program to her to help her get overseas possibly to Montreal. There are quite a few Koreans living in Montreal so I though there could be something for someone with her skills.
I was looking into the Working Holiday program but she would have to be under 30 (and I think she could be around 31-32)
Is there anything else that I could suggest to her that you guys know of?
Thanks! |
Quebec has considerable discretion in matters of foreign immigration to their province. Check out the Quebec immigration website below. She is possibly eligible for a temporary or even permanent residency with her qualifications and French language ability.
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.html |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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You do realize that we're still in a recession right |
Ummm, no. Just no.
The recession ended over a year ago. We've had positive growth since the last quarter of 09. No one is saying that the economic situation is ideal, but in strict economic terms we are long past a recession.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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| She is currently finishing her PhD in French language and is really worried that she won't get a job in Korea because of all the competition. |
So why does she think it's easier to find a job in Canada? Unless she really wants to become a waitress at some Korean restaurant. Almost impossible for her to teach in a school in Canada unless her English or French is native like. Otherwise the students would have a field day with her pronunciation.
There is a reason some many immigrants run small restaurants or corner stores in Canada/US, it's because they can't find jobs. |
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somethingawful
Joined: 26 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: How to help my Korean teacher get to Canada. |
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| hondaicivic wrote: |
You do realize that we're still in a recession right |
Ummm, no. Just no.
The recession ended over a year ago. We've had positive growth since the last quarter of 09. No one is saying that the economic situation is ideal, but in strict economic terms we are long past a recession.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth |
Recessions affect the education sector differently than the rest of the economy. I'm guessing with a PHD and language experience she's going to want to go into the education sector rather than retail or manufacturing.
The way a recession affects the education sector is as follows. . .
People stop having as many kids during recessions and it takes ~5 years from the beginning of one to affect the education sector (waiting for that drop to hit Kindergarten and work its way up the grades). Also Ontario lost something like 40-60,000 students in the past two years, and that is a trend that is pretty much nation wide. Even "Oil Boom" Clagary school board laid off 100 teachers last year. Most provinces have pretty much stopped looking at new teachers, and a lot of them have even stopped pretending that they are even considering people not related to principals or board members. The teacher's colleges have even ramped up number of grads each year, despite there being no jobs for them. Competion is either deadly, or non-existant due to there being nothing for them.
I'd suggest that she talks to WES (World Education Services) and gets her degrees assessed and see what they say they are worth. They are the largest assessors in Canada and a lot of companies, organizations and colleges use them (plus they are a little more generous with their assessments). Universities and Boards of Education will usually assess her degrees themselves or have the provincial college of teachers do it, this takes time and lots of money, and they are fair/harsh in their assessments of Asian qualifications (usually leaning towards harsh).
If she comes over here I'm afraid she's going to get fed up with doing retail before she finds a job in her field. Best of luck though! |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| OP, listen to yourself. You may want to be nice and help someone but don't believe every story you hear. Sounds like someone is trying to use you. Be careful. Just some advice from someone who's heard that same story. |
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mellow-d
Joined: 07 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| OMG! Relax people!!! Again...I OFFERED. We were having a conversation and she said she would love to have an opportunity to live abroad and I said that I would look around to see if there were any programs available to her that would allow her to live a year or two in Canada. I figured being fluent in French and English would eliminate some of those typical barriers that plague other immigrants when they try to find work in Canada. GEEZ! |
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I still remember in the early 2000s when women in Korea were marrying 'foreigners' to get a greencard. Not that I'm saying her motives are particularly for the same reasons.
I don't see much opportunity in Canada at the moment, from talking to people living there. A job coach I spoke to in Canada said it takes 6-9 months for a normal job search these days. And that's if you are qualified and have experience. |
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