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JeffersonDarcy2010
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
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In terms of population/ demographics, history, economic & geopolitical situation and so on...
I'd say:
Italy |
Having lived in both countries for more than 5 years my opinion on Koreans v Italians is this
Similarities
They are both very proud of their national food. So much so that they are happy to eat it all day every day and will ask you whether you have tried it or not, despite being aware of the fact you have lived in their country for several years.
They are both obsessed about appearances, though in different ways. Italians with their clothes and �bella figura� and Koreans with their plastic surgery and photoshop job applications.
They both live at home until they get married and there�s a strong mummy�s boy culture
They are both pretty sociable and adult classes will often invite you out for drinks
Differences
Italians rarely, if ever, drink to excess. It�s not unusual to see a table of twenty somethings in a restaurant all drinking coke.
Quite a lot of young Italians like a smoke.
Italians are passionate about football but will support their local team and not care much about the national one. During the 1986 world cup Neopolitans cheered for Argentina because Maradona was playing for Napoli at the time. Koreans are the opposite.
Italy is full of beautiful architecture and wonderful works of art. Korea isn�t |
Differences:
Italians actually have a sense of fashion and produce good quality clothes.
Italians have a sense of style and know how to match their clothes.
Italian cuisine is the best while Korean is the worst.
Italian music is one of the best in the world, Korean seems to be the worst.
Italian weather is gorgeous, Korean - sucks big time. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ok today my professor compared Korea to Turkey...historically I was sorta like yeah...if you're a Marxist....
economically....FDI apparently doesn't figure into his equation...but I sat...idle and sorta....  and at times...  |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Out country is the BEST in the world.
We are the BEST people in the world.
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I never got that from the time I was there but I wasn't in Rome. I was in the south and got a lot of regionalism. A lot of people in the North of Italy hate the south so much they want to saparate from them and someone in Sicily for example, will have very little in common with someone in Milan. Neither in my experience will go on about thier country being the best in the same way Koreans do |
Perhaps you're new here, but regionalism in Korea is a major problem. In fact, if all the foreigners are out of the room, it becomes the only topic to deal with (aside from NK..which I guess could be considered part of this problem to some extents...no one in the South, for example, seems to like 랭면 (raeng-myun) when then could be slurping 냉면 (naeng-myun)...); i.e. please don't perceive the country "solidarity" as being so encompassing. In fact, I've been told that people from Seoul even refer to Busan (Pusan for the pre-Gim Dae Joong peeps ) as Ha-chon, or 하촌 which basically means 下村 (xia-cun in Chinese) or "low/er village" transliterally (I think it's somewhat of a bastardized form of Chinese--never heard anyone use this in Chinese in my life, though it does make sense). I'm sure the appropriated curse word would be something with 놈 (nom), 년 (nyun), or 새끼 (sekki) added to it to mean "country bumpkin."
btw: this is apparently used only by educated bigots, so don't think that mom and pops store owners understand the "euphemism." (How it's a euphemism...I don't know...seems pretty directly discriminatory to me...but I guess if people are too ignorant to understand it...hmm...) |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Ive heard Italy...
Italians like to sing, so do Koreans
italians have a long great history, so does korean? (  ) yeah ok if you want to compare to Rome..
Italians like to cook and eat and have great cuisine, so does Korea.
korean is a peninsular so is Italy
Italians are passionate and can be hot headed, so are Koreans,
Koreans like to compare themselves against the Best..
Italy ummmmmmmmmmmmm well they are the best! |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Aren't the chicks from both Italy and South Korea standoffish at first. I mean standoffish more so than others...but once you get to know them they open up. |
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shapeshifter
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Location: Paris
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:14 am Post subject: |
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The Staten Island garbage dump.
I'm out of here as soon as my husband's contract is up. I'm over it. |
You have ANOTHER husband? Already??
And I thought Kevin Love was an accomplished rebounder... |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps you're new here, but regionalism in Korea is a major problem. In fact, if all the foreigners are out of the room, it becomes the only topic to deal with (aside from NK..which I guess could be considered part of this problem to some extents...no one in the South, for example, seems to like 랭면 (raeng-myun) when then could be slurping 냉면 (naeng-myun)...); i.e. please don't perceive the country "solidarity" as being so encompassing. In fact, I've been told that people from Seoul even refer to Busan (Pusan for the pre-Gim Dae Joong peeps ) as Ha-chon, or 하촌 which basically means 下村 (xia-cun in Chinese) or "low/er village" transliterally (I think it's somewhat of a bastardized form of Chinese--never heard anyone use this in Chinese in my life, though it does make sense). I'm sure the appropriated curse word would be something with 놈 (nom), 년 (nyun), or 새끼 (sekki) added to it to mean "country bumpkin."
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Just curious but whose benefit is the Korean for? All the Koreans who can't speak English that read this site regularly and don't have to understand the rest of your post? Or just to prove to everyone that you're not new here? Even after living in Italy for five years, I managed to hold onto my capacity for the English language enough to be able to write about my experiences virtually exclusively in my own tongue.
By the way, after living in Korea for 8 years and teaching adults on a regular basis the entire time, the only mention of regionalism I've ever come across has been the occasional reference to people in Jeju and Busan having different dialects. In Southern Italy I heard the Liga Nord mentioned on an almost daily basis, as often as people here mention Dokdo island, and when I met people from the North, they had the same attitude to Southerners as settled people have to gypsies in the West. I'd say it was a slightly more serious issue
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nw25th
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| My first thought was Japan but then I considered Taiwan. |
Taiwan is all night partying with tons of drugs and gorgeous beaches...so, not Taiwan... |
Are you sure you don't mean Thailand? |
The islands are often overlooked in Taiwan. No, I didn't mean Thailand. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps you're new here, but regionalism in Korea is a major problem. In fact, if all the foreigners are out of the room, it becomes the only topic to deal with (aside from NK..which I guess could be considered part of this problem to some extents...no one in the South, for example, seems to like 랭면 (raeng-myun) when then could be slurping 냉면 (naeng-myun)...); i.e. please don't perceive the country "solidarity" as being so encompassing. In fact, I've been told that people from Seoul even refer to Busan (Pusan for the pre-Gim Dae Joong peeps ) as Ha-chon, or 하촌 which basically means 下村 (xia-cun in Chinese) or "low/er village" transliterally (I think it's somewhat of a bastardized form of Chinese--never heard anyone use this in Chinese in my life, though it does make sense). I'm sure the appropriated curse word would be something with 놈 (nom), 년 (nyun), or 새끼 (sekki) added to it to mean "country bumpkin."
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Just curious but whose benefit is the Korean for? All the Koreans who can't speak English that read this site regularly and don't have to understand the rest of your post? Or just to prove to everyone that you're not new here? Even after living in Italy for five years, I managed to hold onto my capacity for the English language enough to be able to write about my experiences virtually exclusively in my own tongue.
By the way, after living in Korea for 8 years and teaching adults on a regular basis the entire time, the only mention of regionalism I've ever come across has been the occasional reference to people in Jeju and Busan having different dialects. In Southern Italy I heard the Liga Nord mentioned on an almost daily basis, as often as people here mention Dokdo island, and when I met people from the North, they had the same attitude to Southerners as settled people have to gypsies in the West. I'd say it was a slightly more serious issue |
Just curious, but did you acquire your unnecessary anger from Italy, Korea, or via birth (or some combination of the three)? I think if you reread what I've written you'd see that your reaction is uncouth and rather misplaced. So perhaps your "capacity for the English language" (whatever that means) needs filling.
Oh, and the Korean is for those of us who perhaps live and attempt to understand life in Korea without throwing around the number of years in a country like a badge of authenticity. If you've ever experienced a political election or picked up a newspaper (or low-and-behold the binded pieces of paper that we usually call a book) you'd know that regionalism is a major problem in Korea. But...I guess if you say that Italy is worse, then all I can say is "perhaps." My point is that Korea is not devoid of regional rifts.
Can someone please translate/ decode the gibberish below?
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| Even after living in Italy for five years, I managed to hold onto my capacity for the English language enough to be able to write about my experiences virtually exclusively in my own tongue. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, and the Korean is for those of us who perhaps live and attempt to understand life in Korea without throwing around number of years in the country like a badge of authenticity |
I don't really get this. 'The Korean is for people who live and attempt to understand life in Korea'. So are you saying that you say the Korean word for Westerners who have a special insight into Korean culture and for those people living here who don't have the special insight into Korean culture, You provide a poor translation into English, which doesn't really convey the true meaning of the idea. An idea which presumably you won't be able to understand unless you are truly assimilated into the culture?
Ok I understand but please don't talk about 'anger'. A healthy disdain is all I have |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, and the Korean is for those of us who perhaps live and attempt to understand life in Korea without throwing around number of years in the country like a badge of authenticity |
I don't really get this. 'The Korean is for people who live and attempt to understand life in Korea'. So are you saying that you say the Korean word for Westerners who have a special insight into Korean culture and for those people living here who don't have the special insight into Korean culture, You provide a poor translation into English, which doesn't really convey the true meaning of the idea. An idea which presumably you won't be able to understand unless you are truly assimilated into the culture?
Ok I understand but please don't talk about 'anger'. A healthy disdain is all I have |
Now I know why marijuana is bad. Point taken. I suggest you cut down your usage.
You asked why I used Korean in my post. I was explaining it. By the way my "capacity for" Gibberish is rather low. I admit. Please accept my apologies.
You're totally off point and nothing seems healthy about your reactions.
Anyways, I think Korea is similar to Italy.
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You provide a poor translation into English, which doesn't really convey the true meaning of the idea. An idea which presumably you won't be able to understand unless you are truly assimilated into the culture?
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Does anyone seriously have a decoder ring or something to understand this stuff? What culture? What idea? Assimilate where? Translation of what exactly? Do you have any alternative translations for whatever you're talking about? I seriously need to improve my Gibberish! |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| My first thought was Japan but then I considered Taiwan. |
Taiwan is all night partying with tons of drugs and gorgeous beaches...so, not Taiwan... |
Are you sure you don't mean Thailand? |
The islands are often overlooked in Taiwan. No, I didn't mean Thailand. |
"Tons of drugs" is a bit hyperbolic, considering most Taiwanese have trouble finding them there than they do in the States and their drug laws are just as draconian as Korea's. |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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I really DO miss Korea. Life seemed so much better; that 'sameness" won't ever come gain..
Not after all this drama. |
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blackinque
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Without a doubt Japan. Even though the people behave differently, if you were to compare, the two countries as a whole are very similar.
What comes to mind is the he salary-men, the focus on hard work & insane work hours, street food, karaoke and nigh life, gender gap ... and much more. Korea is walking in Japans footsteps right now, in my opinion. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Without a doubt Japan. Even though the people behave differently, if you were to compare, the two countries as a whole are very similar.
What comes to mind is the he salary-men, the focus on hard work & insane work hours, street food, karaoke and nigh life, gender gap ... and much more. Korea is walking in Japans footsteps right now, in my opinion. |
I went to high school with a lot of Korean-Japanese (because they were crapped on too much to go to high school in Japan), and they generally have the same sentiment when they come back to the homeland. |
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