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Bigger bastardization of chinese food....?
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cjwilder



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Bigger bastardization of chinese food....? Reply with quote

American chinese food or Korean chinese food?

Honest question.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not eating true Chinese food more than a few times, it is hard to judge. However, my guess is on Korean for the sheer lack of options. 4 items in most Korean Chinese joints and they all suck.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
Not eating true Chinese food more than a few times, it is hard to judge. However, my guess is on Korean for the sheer lack of options. 4 items in most Korean Chinese joints and they all suck.


I came to this conclusion as well.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the American version's heavenly and the Korean version is absolutely horrid and unfit for consumption, so...
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of harsh. Jjam Bong is ok depending on where you get it. Same with Jja Jjeon Myeong. Fried dumpling with sauce can be not bad but don't know the Korean name for them. I suspect Korea being close to China makes its food more close to being authentic than ours. Chinese food has noodles and rice with lots of odds and ends. But China is alos a big country with many regional foods.

I personally like ours more. Wish some place here in Korea would make it. Jackie Chan's and Holy Chow are sort of ok, but I'd love to find egg rolls, chop suey, chow mein, chicken balls, sweet and sour pork, chicken fried rice, etc. Mmmm.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North America still has large communities where you can still get the real thing. Chinese in North America don't go for teh whole sweet and sour chicken balls thing. In Korea places that serve althentic Chinese food are few and far between. I like Tang Su Yook I also like sweet and sour chicken balls.

Also bear in mind there are places in Toronto that serve both the Bastardized version and the real thing.

Chinese food is not a cuisine it's a state of mind. If you think you are eating Chinese food than you are eating Chinese food. Reality is relative to a singular personal and decieved perception of reality. We are all constructed semiotic products of Postmodernist consumerism. We are all part of the pastiche and parody.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
North America still has large communities where you can still get the real thing. Chinese in North America don't go for teh whole sweet and sour chicken balls thing. In Korea places that serve althentic Chinese food are few and far between. I like Tang Su Yook I also like sweet and sour chicken balls.


This is a really important point, and brings up a larger point: by and large, Chinese restaurants in North America are run by people of Chinese descent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the case in Korea.
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SeoulNate



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Same with Jja Jjeon Myeong.


lo. that is not even Chinese food. It is Korean.

The American take is way better. The Korean version is awful and there is no selection to speak of. With that said, there are a few places in Seoul that you can get decent American style Chinese food.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulNate wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Same with Jja Jjeon Myeong.


lo. that is not even Chinese food. It is Korean.

The American take is way better. The Korean version is awful and there is no selection to speak of. With that said, there are a few places in Seoul that you can get decent American style Chinese food.


Are you Korean? You sound like one of them. Every Korean person claims that, but a Chinese person told me they are full of ....... Jjam bbong was really close to Chinese from what I was told. I agree I like Canadian or American Chinese better than Korean Chinese.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like American-style Chinese food more than the Korean style, but it's a matter of personal choice. I grew up in the U.S. thinking jajangmyeon was a Korean dish.

The Chinese food in Korea is of the Shandong variety and Americans are most used to the Guangzhou (Cantonese) or Sichuan cuisines. That said, I hear Chinese food in mainland China is downright awful and nothing like the stuff in North America.
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rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Fishead soup wrote:
North America still has large communities where you can still get the real thing. Chinese in North America don't go for teh whole sweet and sour chicken balls thing. In Korea places that serve althentic Chinese food are few and far between. I like Tang Su Yook I also like sweet and sour chicken balls.


This is a really important point, and brings up a larger point: by and large, Chinese restaurants in North America are run by people of Chinese descent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the case in Korea.


It seems that a vast majority are run by Koreans, but there are some that are owned/ operated by Chinese. I know quite a few Chinese here, and they all seem to loath Chinese-Korean food, I have came to the same conclusion.

But, they may end up hating American-Chinese food too.

What I find annoying is that there are like 2 dishes, jajamyong and the fried sour chicken/pork (taste same either way), or whatever it is.

China is a massive place, with lots of different cuisines and Korea picks two things?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickpidero wrote:
northway wrote:
Fishead soup wrote:
North America still has large communities where you can still get the real thing. Chinese in North America don't go for teh whole sweet and sour chicken balls thing. In Korea places that serve althentic Chinese food are few and far between. I like Tang Su Yook I also like sweet and sour chicken balls.


This is a really important point, and brings up a larger point: by and large, Chinese restaurants in North America are run by people of Chinese descent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the case in Korea.


It seems that a vast majority are run by Koreans, but there are some that are owned/ operated by Chinese. I know quite a few Chinese here, and they all seem to loath Chinese-Korean food, I have came to the same conclusion.

But, they may end up hating American-Chinese food too.

What I find annoying is that there are like 2 dishes, jajamyong and the fried sour chicken/pork (taste same either way), or whatever it is.

China is a massive place, with lots of different cuisines and Korea picks two things?


But, as Fishhead Soup brought up, you can often get fairly authentic stuff served right next to Americanized Chinese food in the States, due to the fact that the places are run by actual Chinese people. I went to high school in rural New England and I was able to get really authentic Taiwanese food via my friend having befriended some restaurant proprietors.

Imagine Chinese joints run in the States by white folks...
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans are purists (or borderline racist) they think the best Chinese food is run by Chinese, Indian food by Indians, Sushi places by Japanese (or Koreans since i met some who think Korea is part of Japan) ...i think the exception is like Italian/pizza places which are run by anyone.

But seriously Korean Chinese food is really really bad. I love Jajjangmyun, and Gambunggi/Tangsuyuk but that's not Chinese. What i would give for some of the Chinese places i ate at in SF...or for that matter even in LA or SD.
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like Korean Chinese food either, but I think most of the posters in this thread are missing an important point. Korean and American people have different tastes in foods (generally speaking), so the Chinese restaurants in the US will appeal to Americans and the restaurants in Korea will appeal to Koreans. I can't make a comment regarding the relative authenticity of American and Korean Chinese food, but I would assume that they are both rather inauthentic.
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy both. I don't care about bastardization. I care about tastiness.
If it's has some spice and is flavorful, I'm in.
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