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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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I do recall hearing she was "compensated" but the details of how much and other conditions were not passed down from the corporate office to our branch manager.
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It wasnt more than a week later we were informed that the elderly lady was suing the company (it was a corporate/chain pizza restaurant very similar to pizza hut) for 300,000 USD to cover her medical expenses and the mental anguish/disturbance she had to endure because of the embarrassment of vomiting in public/pain and suffering.....etc etc...
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Did she win the lawsuit? |
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RangerMcGreggor
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Many large companies actually budget a "lawsuit" money sorta |
of course they do.....it is called liability insurance........ |
Along with that, many companies actually do calculate possible costs of lawsuits from liability. This is common when debating on whether or not to put in a safety device. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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A similar thing happened a few years ago at Pearson airport. A kid fell over a railing and fell to her doom. I think it was a little girl.
Inspectors came in and determined the railings were at the correct legal height and the airport was automatically exempt from being sued. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I think what Madoka is getting at is that it is not so much of an inability to "do business" as much as the fact that for what seems like a whole generation now, people have been rewarded in the form of monetary funds for being as irresponsible as they could possibly be. |
Exactly. This is what I meant.
My parents were the subject of frivilous lawsuits as well. When they owned a business, a woman ran to catch a closing door. In the process, she hit her head against the edge of the door. While all she did was bump her head, she insisted that paramedics be called and demanded that they take her to the emergency room. When the paramedics arrived, they refused to take her to the emergency room telling her that there hardly was any injury worth noting. My parents were sued shortly thereafter for $80,000 and had to settle to reduce legal costs.
When my parents owned an apartment complex, they had one elderly tenant who sued for after falling inside her own apartment. The cost to continue litigating to trial was $30,000, so we ended up settling for $10,000 even though we knew we would win if it went to court. Since we paid $15,000 in legal fees in addition to the settlement, our cost was $25,000 in what amounted to legalized extortion.
Now my parents sold their business and the apartment complex, in part due to the headache of random lawsuits.
Hell, my father got into a fender bender with a public bus. When he went over to the bus, he found the driver coaching all the passengers as to what they should say to get more money. When bystanders saw the accident, they rushed over to try to get on the bus before the cops arrived so that they too could get paid. The greed, lack of ethics, and irresponsibility is just sickening. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Hell, my father got into a fender bender with a public bus. When he went over to the bus, he found the driver coaching all the passengers as to what they should say to get more money. When bystanders saw the accident, they rushed over to try to get on the bus before the cops arrived so that they too could get paid. The greed, lack of ethics, and irresponsibility is just sickening. |
Are you completely serious (I guess you for the purposes of this forum since you bothered to type it out)?
I gotta ask: where did this happen?
(I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that is astounding that people could suck so badly - including the bus driver.) |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I gotta ask: where did this happen?
(I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that is astounding that people could suck so badly - including the bus driver.) |
It happened in Los Angeles. My father went over to the bus immediately after the accident. Passengers were trying to get off the bus so they could continue on with their day rather than have to wait around for the cops. The bus driver told them all to sit back down and what they should say to get a "lot of money". Then bystanders tried to get on the bus knowing that they too could get insurance money. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
| I think what Madoka is getting at is that it is not so much of an inability to "do business" as much as the fact that for what seems like a whole generation now, people have been rewarded in the form of monetary funds for being as irresponsible as they could possibly be. |
Exactly. This is what I meant.
My parents were the subject of frivilous lawsuits as well. When they owned a business, a woman ran to catch a closing door. In the process, she hit her head against the edge of the door. While all she did was bump her head, she insisted that paramedics be called and demanded that they take her to the emergency room. When the paramedics arrived, they refused to take her to the emergency room telling her that there hardly was any injury worth noting. My parents were sued shortly thereafter for $80,000 and had to settle to reduce legal costs. |
Here's the solution.
Yeah, if you own a small business, get liability insurance. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Sound advice. However, looking at the bigger picture, a multimillion dollar insurance policy is a bit of a double-edged sword as it creates a motivation to sue as there is a possibility to collect on it. When a client approaches a lawyer with a potential lawsuit the first thing the lawyer checks on is whether or not the defendant has assets to collect. A liability insurance policy fits that bill quite nicely.
In short, liability insurance feeds the cycle of litigiousness. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:00 am Post subject: |
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not solely the fault of the parents.
if the staple center is going to allow young children, IE toddlers in that area, then it needs to be child safe.. simple as that.
staple center didn't take enough safety measures before allowing young children up there.
totally there fault.. they will loose and be paying out millions.. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
A similar thing happened a few years ago at Pearson airport. A kid fell over a railing and fell to her doom. I think it was a little girl.
Inspectors came in and determined the railings were at the correct legal height and the airport was automatically exempt from being sued. |
fell over? guess they concluded she climbed over.
you don't just fall over a correct legal height railing. |
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7drunkennights
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Children don't climb over legal height railings because the are designed to stop children from climbing over them, with a safety factor built in. It's not like the child was suicidal. It's why in general, railings are 1100mm high, there isn't bars running parallel to the string.floor and why there is a maximum100mm gap between ballustrades so babies cant squeeze between them. These are common regulations in private dwellings.
These regulations are standard for domestic houses and are in general are stricter for public settings.
Granted I am not familiar with the building codes in LA but with a bit of common sense, I am 6'3 and would not feel safe in a public stadium, or even a private dwelling, with a 2 foot barrier in front of a 30 foot drop, where more than likely people are going to get up and jump around to celebrate if their team does well.
I am not trying to take away from the fact that there are horrible leeches out there that will sue for any reason possible as has been shared by previous posters. The stories shared by previous posters disgust me.
I just can't make sense of a 2 foot barrier in front of a 30 foot drop. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
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I gotta ask: where did this happen?
(I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that is astounding that people could suck so badly - including the bus driver.) |
It happened in Los Angeles. My father went over to the bus immediately after the accident. Passengers were trying to get off the bus so they could continue on with their day rather than have to wait around for the cops. The bus driver told them all to sit back down and what they should say to get a "lot of money". Then bystanders tried to get on the bus knowing that they too could get insurance money. |
That's a terrible story on multiple levels. I feel bad for your father without ever having met him after hearing that account.
I'm a Celtics fan so I'm gonna add this story into my collection of reasons why I don't like L.A. |
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joyorbison
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Are you completely serious (I guess you for the purposes of this forum since you bothered to type it out)?
I gotta ask: where did this happen?
(I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that is astounding that people could suck so badly - including the bus driver.) |
I think you should have said, "I guess you are, since you bothered to type it out."
"Gotta" should actually be, "have to."
Also, I think you meant to say "I'm just saying it is astounding."
You are risking coming across as a ignoramus in this post. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
I'm a Celtics fan so I'm gonna add this story into my collection of reasons why I don't like L.A. |
Not just LA. "Ghost riders" were such a problem in the 90s, that police would run sting operations:
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/18/us/ghost-riders-are-target-of-an-insurance-sting.html
For some time, mass transit operators have worried about a growing phenomenon: "ghost riders," people who file insurance claims for injuries they never sustained in public transit accidents. When there is a bus or train accident, people from the neighborhood often race on board and claim they were victims.
New Jersey decided to do something about it. It set up a sting operation, and staged more than 10 accidents around the state, which it filmed. Then, it watched the claims pour in.
Typical of the accidents was one in East Orange, N.J., in March. An ordinary-looking bus carrying 15 passengers, all participating in the sting, was hit from behind by a car going less than 10 miles an hour.
Video cameras inside the bus and outside filmed 17 people scrambling onto the bus before the police arrived. All later claimed to be injured in the accident. Another two who were never even on the bus also filed claims. Some of the newcomers had been scanning police radio frequencies for just such an accident; some of them also called ambulances.
Article continues at link. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
| I think what Madoka is getting at is that it is not so much of an inability to "do business" as much as the fact that for what seems like a whole generation now, people have been rewarded in the form of monetary funds for being as irresponsible as they could possibly be. |
Exactly. This is what I meant.
My parents were the subject of frivilous lawsuits as well. When they owned a business, a woman ran to catch a closing door. In the process, she hit her head against the edge of the door. While all she did was bump her head, she insisted that paramedics be called and demanded that they take her to the emergency room. When the paramedics arrived, they refused to take her to the emergency room telling her that there hardly was any injury worth noting. My parents were sued shortly thereafter for $80,000 and had to settle to reduce legal costs.
When my parents owned an apartment complex, they had one elderly tenant who sued for after falling inside her own apartment. The cost to continue litigating to trial was $30,000, so we ended up settling for $10,000 even though we knew we would win if it went to court. Since we paid $15,000 in legal fees in addition to the settlement, our cost was $25,000 in what amounted to legalized extortion.
Now my parents sold their business and the apartment complex, in part due to the headache of random lawsuits.
Hell, my father got into a fender bender with a public bus. When he went over to the bus, he found the driver coaching all the passengers as to what they should say to get more money. When bystanders saw the accident, they rushed over to try to get on the bus before the cops arrived so that they too could get paid. The greed, lack of ethics, and irresponsibility is just sickening. |
I actually know how you feel, people getting settlements when they're basically just crappy people in the first place. But what you're talking about here, and what happened at Staples are two different things. A two foot railing for a 30 foot drop? That's a liability if I have ever heard of one. What if a person just lost balance and went over?
Thats not to take away from the criminal indifference or stupidity to the danger of the situation by the crappy parents. It sounds to me like they should be in jail. Should people like the parents get any money at all, difficult to judge. The parents sound pretty depraved. |
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