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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| I don't like Korean Chinese food either, but I think most of the posters in this thread are missing an important point. Korean and American people have different tastes in foods (generally speaking), so the Chinese restaurants in the US will appeal to Americans and the restaurants in Korea will appeal to Koreans. I can't make a comment regarding the relative authenticity of American and Korean Chinese food, but I would assume that they are both rather inauthentic. |
But again, if you're in a major urban area in North America, most of the places that serve American style Chinese food are also going to serve a lot of stuff that is rather authentic, simply by virtue of the fact that the places are quite often run by Chinese immigrants and cater to some Chinese clientele. Korean Chinese food is for Koreans, by Koreans. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| My Chinese friend back home loves American Chinese. Her dad is a cook, and makes the authentic stuff, so I've had both on a regular basis. I love her dad's cooking, too, but he says that he can get better ingredients in the US than when he lived in China, so his food tastes better now. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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It makes me laugh and sigh at the same time when Koreans say they go to Chinatown to eat Jja jang myeon.
If you're going all that way, why not eat something good? |
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tukmax
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I've been using bullet points lately. I like it so I'm going to stick with it. My thoughts on the issue
- If you ask Koreans what they think of Chinese food then 99.9997% will respond by saying 'Ewww, greasy!" while making a disgusted face.
- Seoul is one of the only large cities in the world that doesn't have a China town
- Canada has some of the best Chinese food in the world. Vancouver and Toronto most notably. I've known many Chinese as well as non-Chinese who have tried both authentic and westernized and agree that the Chinese food in Canada is better than in China.
- A big difference in North American Chinese cooking is that it uses more meat than Chinese food in China, hence appealing more to western taste buds
- I miss Chinese food! Growing up in Toronto (a city that is 1/4 Chinese/East Asian) I had easy access to delicious Chinese food. Ironically, even though Korea is neighbors with China, and in the same geographic region, I actually feel more isolated and farther away from Chinese culture then I did back home.
- Furthermore, I'm actually surprised how little Koreans know about other Asian countries like China, Japan, etc. Growing up with Asians and learning about their culture from them I sometimes feel I know more about other Asian countries then Koreans do, again ironic considering how close they are to China etc
- Many Chinese and Japanese restaurants in Toronto are owned by Koreans
- For a city of 20 million people, and one that wants to be a true global city, Seoul's international restaurant scene is pitiful. Other than Itaewon there are barely any good non-Korean restaurants considering a city it's size. A lot of Koreans just eat Korean food and wont even try anything else. I think this speaks volumes about the culture and mindset of the people here.
- I was surprised to find out that there is a Ho Lee Chows in Seoul, a Canadian Chinese food take out company. I use to order from this back home with my friends, but last I checked they were having financial problems. Weird to see them in Korea. Haven't tried them here though. |
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jvalmer

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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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- Seoul is one of the only large cities in the world that doesn't have a China town
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http://www.rieti.go.jp/en/miyakodayori/061.html
Interesting article explaining modern Korean attitudes towards the Chinese. I think it also is a major indicator of the Japanese attitude towards the Chinese as well. In most of SE Asia their is a tension between ethnic Chinese and the original native inhabitants, since the Chinese tend to dominate the economic landscape in SE Asia. Korea and Japan avoided that by deliberately making it hard on ethnic Chinese and 'encourage' them to look for opportunities elsewhere. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Most all Asian restaurants are run by cantonese speaking chinese in Toronto. Even most of the japanese, mongolian and korean restuarants !
My opinion s that the owners are trying to make a fast buck and so sell anything to the gullable canadians. Authentic or no. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| tukmax wrote: |
- Seoul is one of the only large cities in the world that doesn't have a China town
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http://www.rieti.go.jp/en/miyakodayori/061.html
Interesting article explaining modern Korean attitudes towards the Chinese. I think it also is a major indicator of the Japanese attitude towards the Chinese as well. In most of SE Asia their is a tension between ethnic Chinese and the original native inhabitants, since the Chinese tend to dominate the economic landscape in SE Asia. Korea and Japan avoided that by deliberately making it hard on ethnic Chinese and 'encourage' them to look for opportunities elsewhere. |
The Namguro and Daerim areas of Seoul have large concentrations of ethnic Chinese, though I hear the Yeongdeungpo area has the highest concentration. And Incheon is close by with its Chinatown and there are plans to build the world's biggest Chinatown in Ilsan.
Give it time and Korea will get there. |
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red_devil

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| tukmax wrote: |
- Seoul is one of the only large cities in the world that doesn't have a China town
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http://www.rieti.go.jp/en/miyakodayori/061.html
Interesting article explaining modern Korean attitudes towards the Chinese. I think it also is a major indicator of the Japanese attitude towards the Chinese as well. In most of SE Asia their is a tension between ethnic Chinese and the original native inhabitants, since the Chinese tend to dominate the economic landscape in SE Asia. Korea and Japan avoided that by deliberately making it hard on ethnic Chinese and 'encourage' them to look for opportunities elsewhere. |
The Namguro and Daerim areas of Seoul have large concentrations of ethnic Chinese, though I hear the Yeongdeungpo area has the highest concentration. And Incheon is close by with its Chinatown and there are plans to build the world's biggest Chinatown in Ilsan.
Give it time and Korea will get there. |
Agreed. The majority of foreigners in Korea are Chinese, around 70% in fact. Of that 70% about 45% are ethnic Koreans. Native English speakers make up around 6%. A Chinatown is bound to happen soon, and i'm hoping Chinese restaurants spring up...if nothing else to serve themselves. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The Chinese food scene in Korea is pretty bad. I find it quite ironic that whenever Koreans go abroad, they have to have their same boring Koreatowns. But yet they won't let a Chinatown get set up here. And don't count that pitiful "Chinatown" in Incheon. It should be called, "The Korean version of Chinatown town." Ho Lee Chow is about as close as you get here and it is way too expensive. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| The Chinese food scene in Korea is pretty bad. I find it quite ironic that whenever Koreans go abroad, they have to have their same boring Koreatowns. But yet they won't let a Chinatown get set up here. And don't count that pitiful "Chinatown" in Incheon. It should be called, "The Korean version of Chinatown town." Ho Lee Chow is about as close as you get here and it is way too expensive. |
Pretty much. |
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alljokingaside
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I've actually had a "Chinese" version of jja-jang-myun in the US (chinese restaurant, chinese owners) and it was pretty awful. That said, everything else was amazing. Definitely bastardized American Chinese food over Korean Chinese food, just due to sheer options (as long as we're not talking about Panda Express). And, of course, authentic, "Chinese" food lords over them all. God, I miss Chinatown/Malaysia
btw, the American-Chinese food in Busan isn't bad (it's kinda hard to mess up Americanized Chinese food), but is waayyyyy overpriced. I think I'll stick with the "authentic" Mexican here =p |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:02 am Post subject: |
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1. Go to Geonguk University subway station in Seoul.
2. Walk 20 minutes to the Chinese kebab district
3. Have some authentic Northern Chinese cuisines made by actual Chinese
4. Be happy
5. Profit |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
1. Go to Geonguk University subway station in Seoul.
2. Walk 20 minutes to the Chinese kebab district
3. Have some authentic Northern Chinese cuisines made by actual Chinese
4. Be happy
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Bingo!
This is a china town. I know cuz I live here.
The reason nobody talks about a "china town" is becuase nobody wants to visit it in Korea.
Unless they like lamb(most don't it seems) they don't wanna go. Most of the authentic chinese restourants here focus on lamb BBQ. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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If you want American/Canadian Chinese cuisine, go and make a restaurant.
I too miss Chinese food back home (Canada) but I don't mind Northern Chinese cuisine or Jjajangmyeon. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| tukmax wrote: |
I've been using bullet points lately. I like it so I'm going to stick with it. My thoughts on the issue
- If you ask Koreans what they think of Chinese food then 99.9997% will respond by saying 'Ewww, greasy!" while making a disgusted face.
- Furthermore, I'm actually surprised how little Koreans know about other Asian countries like China, Japan, etc. Growing up with Asians and learning about their culture from them I sometimes feel I know more about other Asian countries then Koreans do, again ironic considering how close they are to China etc
- For a city of 20 million people, and one that wants to be a true global city, Seoul's international restaurant scene is pitiful. Other than Itaewon there are barely any good non-Korean restaurants considering a city it's size. A lot of Koreans just eat Korean food and wont even try anything else. I think this speaks volumes about the culture and mindset of the people here.
- I was surprised to find out that there is a Ho Lee Chows in Seoul, a Canadian Chinese food take out company. I use to order from this back home with my friends, but last I checked they were having financial problems. Weird to see them in Korea. Haven't tried them here though. |
Please introduce me to this wonder healthy arena of Chinese food because I didn't get much of it in China.
Konkuk China town. It's not getting any more authentic than every sign in Chinese first THEN korean.
Also, many of the chinese immigrants are of korean descent originally. They're here to intergrate, not spread chinese influence. I live next to them.
Judging by the rapid expansion of foreign chains despite higher prices, I beg to differ. Old people won't eat foreign food hence all the restaurants aimed at them. Korea has a lot of old people.
Alot of western food places aim at the younger set and women who do try to eat foreign food. |
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