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Mr Lee's Monkey
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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 Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:57 am Post subject: hitting the wall at 65 |
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Wow OP, sorry for all of the smarmy posts associated with your post.... that's Dave's for ya. 
I'm an older female currently living in Busan, but leaving soon. It's really tough to get a teaching job in a private school here if you're 65 and male. It's a little easier for a female, but still very, very tough. I've seen posts on this board a few times where people rather vaguely contend that age is not an issue here and I wonder if we are talking about the same country. It's a huge issue, and much more here in Busan than points north.
I've worked in a number of hagwons that produce their own materials. The materials are often dated, boring as hell, fraught with errors, filled with off the wall and obscure stuff nobody cares about, and they are a huge waste of hard earned money. Maybe you could investigate the possibility of writing or editing English learning materials instead of teaching. Maybe live in Busan and telecommute or just plain commute. Maybe you're that guy who could create some really good stuff here. Heaven knows they could use it. Best of luck to you! |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| What about working in-company somewhere? Do you have contacts that could sort out your Visa that way? Or how about investing in/starting a business if you have the cash? Editing english material or...something! I don't know. You seem really sincere (and sounds like you enjoy Korea, a rarity for Dave's) so I hope you get something, please keep this thread updated. Good luck! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| jinks wrote: |
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| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
Likewise - no offence, but if you are in your late twenties, early thirties it could argued that there are a lot better places than Korea to enjoy the golden opportunities that the 'best years of your life' offer. |
Don't remind me. 
I hope if I'm still working at 65 it will be because I want to, not because I have to. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: |
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If I were you with your experience and education, I would be trying the lower tier Universities out in rural areas.
You never know.
Best of luck to you and let us know how you make out.
cheers |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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The point I was trying to make is: It doesn't matter where you are at any particular age - if it is where you want to be, then you are lucky.
OP - I know you said that you want to live in the Busan area, but if that is proving too difficult PM me, my school has hired people in their 60s who have been well qualified. If you don't have an MA, I also know another school further south (from me) who also hire on experience/ablility rather than age. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
A series of adjectives are running through my mind regarding this post and or this poster.
But I will refrain from further comment.
All the best to you Op. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:09 am Post subject: |
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The door isnt welded shut but I think you'd need to make a winning in-person impression to convince a hiring committee, ie not stodgy.
Pushing 60 myself & not long before I get the official retirement boot from the public school system. I plan to stick around, I'm happy here.
If top jobs arent a priority, opportunities do exist. Best luck. |
A Canadian friend of mine worked here into her 60s. She had a great attitude and made tons of friends - never had troubles getting classes. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Look, I ain't trying to bust the guy's chops. If he wants to work in Korea, then more power to him. But would any of you other posters work here in Korea when you're 65? Be honest. And making a comparison between someone working in K-Land when they are in their 20's or 30's and someone who is of retirement age is not very accurate. There is a vast contextual difference between the two. However, if the OP wants to come to Korea and teach then do it. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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^^ You know some people are able to learn the language, make friends, enjoy the culture.
It's a shock for some of you I realize, but it's true. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| Look, I ain't trying to bust the guy's chops. If he wants to work in Korea, then more power to him. But would any of you other posters work here in Korea when you're 65? Be honest. And making a comparison between someone working in K-Land when they are in their 20's or 30's and someone who is of retirement age is not very accurate. There is a vast contextual difference between the two. However, if the OP wants to come to Korea and teach then do it. |
Yes there is a difference, but nothing wrong with it.
There are people who come here after retiring for an interesting new adventure, something to do, a new chapter in life, and a chance to help some kids and give back. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| Look, I ain't trying to bust the guy's chops. If he wants to work in Korea, then more power to him. But would any of you other posters work here in Korea when you're 65? Be honest. And making a comparison between someone working in K-Land when they are in their 20's or 30's and someone who is of retirement age is not very accurate. There is a vast contextual difference between the two. However, if the OP wants to come to Korea and teach then do it. |
Yes, I think I would work here when I am 65. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| Look, I ain't trying to bust the guy's chops. If he wants to work in Korea, then more power to him. But would any of you other posters work here in Korea when you're 65? Be honest. And making a comparison between someone working in K-Land when they are in their 20's or 30's and someone who is of retirement age is not very accurate. There is a vast contextual difference between the two. However, if the OP wants to come to Korea and teach then do it. |
You know, not every foreigner has the same life here. Some of us have lots of money, good jobs, families, nice apartments...everything that "home" offers and more - enough to keep us here. I am tired of the hagwon/PS crowd coming in here and assuming that everyone is living like a gypsy, which just isn't so.
Kudos to the OP; I hope you can make a go of it. Sure beats sitting around your hometown waiting to fade away. Do something new; this is what keeps us going. Good luck OP. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Some of us have lots of money, good jobs, families, nice apartments...everything that "home" offers and more - enough to keep us here |
Got all that but still don't want to stay. This place is just too ugly and over crowded for me. But different strokes for different folks. However I don't think West Coast Tatterdemalion was necessarily talking about material stuff. Teaching badly behaved kids and kowtowing to Korean bosses can be endured more easily when you're a bit younger. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| Korea is the best place I know for all that |
He said this, I queried it. Why do you have a problem with that? |
Key words here would be probably be "I know".
In other words in his experience Korea is the best place he knows to develop his interests. He never said it was the "best place in the world" for them. He even said that S.F was an exception to Korea but that he couldn't afford it. |
Word. The guy likes Korea and wants a job, why not just help a brother out rather than hassling him |
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