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kraggy
Joined: 06 Mar 2011
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 Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: Can I leave my job and go to a hagwon? |
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Hi,
Thinking worst case scenario in a couple of months.
I'm in a public school. Been here for over a month. Not happy with some elements of the school and wondering, if it came down to it, could I leave and go to a hagwon? Or is it a case that if I leave the job, I have to leave the country? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Can I leave my job and go to a hagwon? |
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| kraggy wrote: |
Hi,
Thinking worst case scenario in a couple of months.
I'm in a public school. Been here for over a month. Not happy with some elements of the school and wondering, if it came down to it, could I leave and go to a hagwon? Or is it a case that if I leave the job, I have to leave the country? |
you got another set of docs?  |
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kraggy
Joined: 06 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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So I need another set of docs? I take it immigration have the ones I sent over. Can they not be used for visa purposes?
I have my original degree here. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kraggy wrote: |
So I need another set of docs? I take it immigration have the ones I sent over. Can they not be used for visa purposes?
I have my original degree here. |
Typically, public schools as a matter of policy, will NOT issue a LOR (letter of release) to allow you to transfer (and they are not obligated to do so).
What this means is that to change jobs you need to get a new visa.
New visa means new documents (your old ones are gone to immigration and cannot be re-used).
You will need a new CBC with apositlle, copy of your degree with apostille and 2 trips out and back to do a change of visa.
Lastly, as bad as you think your PS job is at least you can be assured of being paid, getting medical, being enrolled in the NPS and getting your holidays. No guarantees that it will happen at a hagwan (the grass always LOOKS greener on the other side).
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
immi officer must like you. maybe you're beatiful? |
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waseige1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: I agree??? |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
This is my understanding too. BUT dealing with any bureaucratic organization in ANY country (private or public) is NEVER a sure thing. |
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Ninja-Bees
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
This is what I was told, too. Not the ten years part, but if they have your documents registered, then you do not have to send them in again. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
immi officer must like you. maybe you're beatiful? |
Haha it was a lady officer, but perhaps. She said I wouldn't need new documents next year, even if I changed jobs. I'd only need the health check (unless I left for longer than a couple of months. I should check to see how long I can be out of the country.) |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
Only for a transfer. This is not a transfer situation. He/she will need to apply for a new visa and will need new documents to complete the process.
And lol at 10 years. No policy in the kimmi office lasts for more than 6 months. I am highly surprised that two different people actually got the same response from them over the phone. |
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Ninja-Bees
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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This is what HiKorea has to say. Please let me know if I am interpreting it incorrectly:
For the degree:
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| - If a foreigner hands in a degree certificate for the visa issuance application, and comes to Korea after getting the conversation teacher(E-2) visa, if the document is made as data in the immigration system the degree certificate is able to be omitted when the foreigner wants to move to another workplace through a new visa issuance application. |
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| - If a foreigner hands in a criminal record check which covers the whole home country's information for the visa issuance application, and comes to Korea after getting the conversation teacher(E-2) visa the criminal record check document is able to be omitted when the foreigner wants to move to another workplace through a new visa issuance application.(This includes the situation such as, visa issuance application made after the foreigner left Korea. But, if the time period from leaving date up to entrance date with the new E-2 visa is more than 3 months criminal record check is needed when alien registration application is made. ) |
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
Go to the above link, click English on the right, select information in the top menu, select immigration guide in the drop down Basics of Immigration table, select View next to work and under More than 91 days. Find Foreign Language Instructor
(E-2) in the next table and select ELIGIBLITY/PROCEDURE/DOCUMENT
When I called immigration at :02-134-5 and 02-732-6220, they both told me the same thing. I won't have to bring in new documents for a New Visa. I'm hoping I can get a Korean friend to call tomorrow so I can verify.
I am in the same boat as you Kraggy (except I am trying to leave a hagwon that got bought out and I am waiting to the 6 month mark). |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
Only for a transfer. This is not a transfer situation. He/she will need to apply for a new visa and will need new documents to complete the process.
And lol at 10 years. No policy in the kimmi office lasts for more than 6 months. I am highly surprised that two different people actually got the same response from them over the phone. |
I just called back. They said I'd need to do a visa run, but not get new documents (except for the health check.) I've been hearing the same thing, consistently. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
Only for a transfer. This is not a transfer situation. He/she will need to apply for a new visa and will need new documents to complete the process.
And lol at 10 years. No policy in the kimmi office lasts for more than 6 months. I am highly surprised that two different people actually got the same response from them over the phone. |
I just called back. They said I'd need to do a visa run, but not get new documents (except for the health check.) I've been hearing the same thing, consistently. |
That was the theory but I have NEVER heard of anyone being able to do it yet.
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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That's because people are only starting to use the documents as of this year. Many Americans have even had the necessity waived for a one-year period if they renewed at the same school. We'll know more towards the end of this year, beginning of next year at the latest.
When I gave in my documents for my visa recently, they took photocopies and gave them back to me. Next year, if I do stay, either at my current school or a new one, I'm bringing them back with me and saying that I used them last year, and was told I wouldn't need them again. If that doesn't work, they can suck a **** and I'll move on to a different country. We're not sure if we're staying another year after this one, yet, anyway.
Anyway, best of luck, OP. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| I was told by immigration that if you submitted all of the new required docs, you won't have to submit them (with the exception of a health check) for 10 years, as long as you aren't out of country for more than a few months. Tom? |
Only for a transfer. This is not a transfer situation. He/she will need to apply for a new visa and will need new documents to complete the process.
And lol at 10 years. No policy in the kimmi office lasts for more than 6 months. I am highly surprised that two different people actually got the same response from them over the phone. |
I just called back. They said I'd need to do a visa run, but not get new documents (except for the health check.) I've been hearing the same thing, consistently. |
That was the theory but I have NEVER heard of anyone being able to do it yet.
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With Kimmi, I would surely not want to be the first one to try. I can only imagine how much a cluster F that would be. |
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