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R. S. Refugee



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Organic meat in Korea? Reply with quote

I do see the Korean organic label on some chicken, but I'm wondering if anyone knows if there are any other organically grown meats in Korea.

Also, does anyone know if there is any grass-fed beef available. All the ones at Costco are grain fed. And is there any grass-fed sheep and goat meat available? I think that most sheep and goats are grass fed, but my online research indicates that that isn't always the case, so it would be good to know.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be entirely skeptical of any label claiming the product to be organic. It's usually just used as a marketing word like 'premium' or 'Grade 1.

Also, recent research shows that most organic foods aren't any more healthy for you than non-organic.

Unless the country you live in has a strict code of practice, with inspections and certification for farmers to earn the right to call their stuff organic, then the word means nothing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:

I would be entirely skeptical of any label claiming the product to be organic. It's usually just used as a marketing word like 'premium' or 'Grade 1.


You're certainly right about unregulated marketing words being meaningless. Back in the US, one of the most meaningless is "natural" since there is no regulation whatsoever of it's usage. "USDA Organic" by comparison does have a specific legal definition.

Perhaps you are unaware, but there is a Korean government-regulated organic label. Indeed, if there were no Korean government regulation of this labeling, then certainly every food producer in Korea would most likely stick an organic label on their product and it would truly be meaningless. Since there is government regulation, they don't do that as it would cost them a lot of money in fines and possibly jail time if they did.

eamo wrote:

Also, recent research shows that most organic foods aren't any more healthy for you than non-organic.


I'm fascinated by this and would certainly like to read the research that you are referring to. I've noticed that veeeery often on the Internet people will make assertions that back up their particular biases with no substantiating evidence. When asked to provide some, they most often say something like, "Google it yourself. It's everywhere." Which means, they have no idea where such "evidence" is located and having to provide any just slows down the pleasure they derive from making unsubstantiated assertions that express their biases.

I'm sure this isn't the case with you, however, and I will look forward to reading the evidence that backs up your assertion.


eamo wrote:

Unless the country you live in has a strict code of practice, with inspections and certification for farmers to earn the right to call their stuff organic, then the word means nothing.


Yes, I completely agree with you there. That would seem pretty obvious. As I mentioned before in this post, Korea does have an official label for certifying organic products. I'm trying to find out more about Korean organic certification and thought there may be some knowledgeable folks on this forum who could tell me what they know about the Korean government organic certification program.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2009/07/30/organic-food.html?ref=rss

The massive study � covering 50 years worth of data from 162 separate surveys � was funded by the British Food Standards Agency. Carried out by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and led by Alan Dangour. It found that organic food has the same nutritional content as conventionally developed foodstuffs.

I read this report from the BFSA.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2009/07/30/organic-food.html?ref=rss

The massive study � covering 50 years worth of data from 162 separate surveys � was funded by the British Food Standards Agency. Carried out by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and led by Alan Dangour. It found that organic food has the same nutritional content as conventionally developed foodstuffs.

I read this report from the BFSA.


Thanks for providing the reference. I'll check it out and maybe go out for a Happy Meal if I find it convincing. Cheers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason, the British Food Standards Agency (BFSA) set the period of time for studies that could be included in this meta-analysis so that the researchers were prohibited from including a recently concluded, 4-year EU investigation that found organic food to be healthier and safer.

As Dr. Alan Dangour was quoted as saying in The Independent, he would have liked to have included new EU-funded research into organic nutrition by Newcastle University published in April last year � after the February cut-off date for his research period set by the FSA.

So, why did the BFSA set a date range that excluded this recent EU research on the topic they wanted so much to find out about anyway? Just curious.

The report's key findings:

* Organic milk contains higher amounts of vitamin E, according to the EU study. The antioxidant contributes to a healthy circulatory system

* Potatoes, kiwi fruit and carrots were among the organic produce found to be higher in vitamin C than their chemically-farmed counterparts. The vitamin has been credited with boosting the immune system and helping to keep cancer and heart disease at bay

* Higher levels of minerals and antioxidants were found in organically- farmed lettuce, spinach and cabbage

Organic food is healthier and safer, four-year EU investigation shows
By Emily Dugan
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/organic-food-is-healthier-and-safer-fouryear-eu-investigation-shows-395483.html

A short and interesting article to read, I think.

From the EU study:

"Up to 40 per cent more antioxidants, which scientists believe can cut the risk of heart disease and cancer, could be found in organic fruit and vegetables than in those conventionally farmed."

"Cattle were also farmed on the 725-acre plot, where it has been discovered that organic milk contains 60 per cent more antioxidants and desirable fatty acids than ordinary milk."


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I have little or no knowledge or interest in the subject.

I just remember reading the article on the BBC website.......and I'm just a natural skeptic about things like accurate food labels.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Actually, I have little or no knowledge or interest in the subject.

I just remember reading the article on the BBC website.......and I'm just a natural skeptic about things like accurate food labels.


Being a natural skeptic about things like accurate food labels is a wise approach. In the US, for example they have a large % variance in their food labeling that is allowable under existing regulations. (I hope you don't make me prove that, but I did read about it at Mercola.com and can find the references if required.)

It is wise to be skeptical of all studies and to question the politics on either side of the issue. Unlike yourself, I do actually have a great interest in this subject (and my own biases, of course), so I'm likely to spend a bit of time digging into these questions when they come up. Another issue that this BFSA study intentionally did not look at was pesticide residues found on non-organically grown foods - a huge safety issue all by itself.

Cheers.
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