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[Kheldar]

[Chokse]

Typo. Should have been "now".

And yet, there are still hundreds if not thousands of "viruses" released for Windows each year, so I guess they are not exactly extinct as you would have us believe. So, no thanks, I will not get off of it.

And, once again, according to your math, every single PC in the world has been infected by viruses thousands of times each, since there are only 7,600 PCs in the world.

I have never had a virus or a malware attack. No one in my family has either. We all use Macs. None of my friends who have Macs have ever experienced a virus or malware attack.

Yet, many of my friends have. My wife uses a PC and gets some kind of virus or malware attack at least twice a year, and she uses Avast antivirus. I can count at least 20 personal friends who have had viruses on their PCs, and I know of many others through different forums who have complained online about a virus affecting their PCs.

Why on Earth would I want to be part of the group that is constantly complaining about viruses attacking them. I'm much happier being with the group that doesn't seem to ever get these problems... except for the mysterious person online who claims that it has happened. Real numbers speak volumes.

And, we look better too with our shiny, expensive machines. We also get all the hot chicks cause they dig a guy with money to burn!

[Kheldar]

[Chokse]

You can't say "me neither" to a string of words taken out of context.

Or, are you saying that you know absolutely no one who has ever experienced a virus or malware attack on his/her PC.

I doubt you can honestly say that, and as such saying "me neither" makes you seem obtuse or that you just don't get the meaning and nuances of the English language.

And about me, yes, guilty as charged. Money, toys, and hot girls (or guys if that's your thing) make life better. You'll get no apology from me about that, since it's a pretty universal concept. But, the point that was lost on you is that I have never seen a girl strike up a conversation with a guy because he was using a PC.

I have, however, seen it happen several times when a guy was sitting there with his MacBook. Back in my single days, I met quite a few girls who came over to talk because they thought Macs looked great and wanted to see one up close. Even dated a few of them. It was a great way to meet girls, though I can't say the same would work for the average guy sitting there with a plastic PC.

So, imagine that, I was able to get all of my work done, I was able to avoid all viruses and malware, and I was able to meet girls.... all with my "shiny" machine made by Apple.

Sounds like a pretty damn good deal to me!

[crescent]

[Kheldar]

[crescent]

[Kheldar]

[crescent]

[Kheldar]

I know all you Mac fans need constant attention but I thought I was responding to this.

[Chokse]

It is neither crescent's definition nor is it Symantec's definition. It is THE definition of a computer virus. Here you go:

Computer Virus: A program that enters a computer�usually without the knowledge of the operator. Computer viruses spread from machine to machine on disks or, more commonly, over the Internet.

So, now do you understand what a "virus" is? If not, feel free to crack open the dictionary and read more about it. We'll wait.

[Chokse]

It says "out there right now". Do you understand what that means? There is no virus "out there" that affects the Mac. Trojan horses maybe, but not viruses.

Dude, we're basically saying that smallpox has been eradicated and you're saying no, it's alive and present because a few governments have live samples of the disease in freezers somewhere.

Its the same argument. If there is nothing actually affecting any computers, then it is nothing more than a concept and is not a reality.

So again, find me one that is "OUT THERE" right now, or even within the last several years (and a proof of concept virus does not count because it is not a real virus). Again, we'll wait for you.

[Chokse]

Edit: Double Post.

Jeez, Dave's is really getting slow these days. Has anyone else noticed that. It sometimes takes a couple of minutes after submitting before a post goes through. It used to be right away.

[Kheldar]

[Chokse]

We predict the future by studying history. Did you miss that lesson in school too? History shows us that there have been many viruses, trojan horses, and worms on Windows. Therefore, by looking at the past, virus companies see the need to continue developing vaccines for Windows.

Meanwhile, most big name antivirus makers have sold very few copies of their programs on the Mac platform. In fact, there is so little money to be made (why would Mac users waste money on this?) that several antivirus makers have abandoned software for the Mac platform as their software is essentially obsolete. Even Symantec stopped making a Mac version for a few years.

And finally, why do you think Apple would suggest that Mac users get an antivirus software? The answer is simple and it's the reason this whole thread started. There are trojan horses, and if Apple has suggested that all users run antivirus software and the users don't, then Apple does not need to help those users when they bring their trojan horse infected computer to the Apple Center, as Apple has already instructed those users to run some software to prevent trojan horses.

So, in the end, Apple was right to deny service to these people because, according to the link you found, Apple had already warned users that malware was possible and that users should do something to prevent it.

Congratulations, you just made the argument needed to prove Apple did the right thing in denying service to these people since the people had already been warned.