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Zyzyfer · Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject:

All right, I'll bite.

Pretty sure the context of the discussion was primarily refering to Korean employers and coworkers, first of all. If someone doesn't have enough common sense to pick up on this and realize that, yes, those awesome Korean friends you have don't fall under this statement truly will be there for you when you need help with something, are missing a few brain cells.

Even in the context of employers, I've worked with my fair share of supervisors who I get on with just fine. We may or may not be literally friends. But in either group, I've requested work-related assistance on occasion and received the runaround. In no instance did this cause me to doubt their sincerity towards me. They may have been lazy or incompetent. They may have had too many other genuine issues to tackle at the time. They may have been unable to provide the assistance. But at no time did I feel that I was someone that "they don't like and aren't willing to go out of their way for."

Considering the context within this job-related discussion thread was the original poster asking why his or her boss would claim that obtaining a new ARC would take several weeks rather than a day, and that another poster responded, "Never never never ask a Korean for help or assistance ESPECIALLY your boss. Standard answers are, oh its soo difficult, it can't be done, it will take so long," I think it's pretty clear that, despite the second poster omitting a disclaimer that the comment is directed at work-based situations and not Korean society as a whole, everyone contributing the the thread prior to your own comment understood this to be the case.

Why you felt the need to state that A) people who don't receive help from Korean employers and coworkers are either unliked or unimportant; and B) you have Korean friends who are willing to do whatever they can to help you out, seems rather petty. The way I'm interpreting it, you're implying that Koreans hate all the relevant commenters on this thread but find you likeable and worth their time. And that's absolutely ridiculous.

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:30 am Post subject:

Jen514 · Joined: 17 Jun 2009

hey everyone, thanks for all of the great replies. you're all really helpful and i really do appreciate it!

unfortunately its pretty much next to impossible for me to go to immigration. i work at a hagwon so as you know, its basically a prison. not allowed any time off or allowed to leave early or come late. immigration office hours are the same as my work...so therein lies the problem.

im just so annoyed that my boss is telling me it will take 3 weeks when you all say it takes 10 minutes. i guess im just gonna ask him every single day for it until it comes....just really hoping i get it before i leave in 3 weeks. dont wanna pay that 100,000won. other than that payment, does anyone know of any real issues that i would run into when trying to leave the country?

thanks again Very Happy

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:37 am Post subject:

Your school is not a prison Jen. That is a ridiculous comparison to be making.

If you lost your ARC, that is not your bosses fault and he or she does not owe you anything more than helping you replacing it. You want it faster than 3 weeks because you do not want to pay the 100 000W fine when you pull a runner on your boss.

Its kind of odd then yo rant about your boss not replacing your ARC faster.

Just pull your runner and be done with it, hopefully it all turns out well for you.

walter235 · Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Location: korea

Jen514 · Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:29 am Post subject:

As I said, your school is not even close to a prison and using the analogy is just stupid (sorry) and done for dramatic effect. Having worked in Hakwons, PS, Universities and being a Public School Teacher in Canada before going to Korea, sometimes it is hard to leave school for an appointment if you have classes and no one can replace you. In a Hakwon setting, there typically are no subs to fill a spot. Then again, in most Hakwons, teachers have a break during the day, start in the early afternoon or finish in the late afternoon. All of these options allow time to go to Kimmi and replace an ARC.

So whats your schedule like?

You may have a bad school to deal with but since we have no idea as to what the issues are, you are asking us to believe you on faith.

No problem as this is not my life.

However, you lost your ARC, no one else. It was an accident but your employer does not owe you speedy replacement of this card. The only reason you are not happy with the 3 week replacement time is that you want to avoid paying a 100 000W fine as you run out of Korea by breaking your contract. Seriously, its not a great position to be ragging on your employer for not replacing your ARC faster. That is all I am saying.

As for the 3 weeks vs one day replacement time there could be a ton of reasons for the difference: your boss is innefficient, your boss is busy and sees no hurry in replacing this document, your boss does not care...the list goes on.

At the end of the day, you got your information: you pull a runner and leave without an ARC it will cost you 100 000W at the airport.

Just as a question, you bought the airplane ticket you are using to fly home right?

Spionen · Joined: 15 Mar 2010

Have things changed a lot in Korea recently? I did a runner mid-2010 and I stıll have my card in my wallet. They never asked me for it- didn't even ask why I was leaving the country, actually.

ttompatz · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea

Jen514 · Joined: 17 Jun 2009

Do I definitely need my passport to get a new ARC? I'm assuming I do...

ttompatz · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea

Baron · Joined: 30 Jun 2009

Ok, I havent recieved my ARC card yet from my job. I only started a short time ago. Im pulling a runner very soon. I've already did the visa run and got the health test. My boss has been lazy about getting me the ARC. I don't think it will be possible to to get an ARC by the time I leave. I think it takes ten working days right?

Im planning to come back though. Will I encounter any problems when I try to apply for new visa? I assume my visa is cancelled anyway and I can just apply for new visa.