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Koreadays
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nickwils
Joined: 30 Apr 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Still fit. Although she is never 31/32 as she claims. Don't hate people. Her views? Like she wrote that? Please. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2009/10/242_36575.html
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Koreans have been taught since elementary school that they are ``ethnically homogeneous.'' Most take it for granted.
However, with a growing number of immigrants coming to South Korea, the country is rapidly transforming into a multicultural society. This slow but gradual transition toward multiculturalism is raising the question whether Korea is really as homogeneous as taught.
These days most Koreans agree that Korea should live in harmony with immigrants. And some critics say that it is time that the country discards the perception of homogeneity.
Children are still taught at school that all Koreans are of the same ancestry. The Ministry of Education, Science and Technology has no immediate plans to completely erase the term ``homogeneous Korean people,'' thought it has toned down the parts emphasizing it.
``It's still a bit too early to remove the term homogenous people,'' said Min Byung-kwan, the ministry director in charge of textbooks.
The ministry says it is inevitable to maintain the term to explain the reasons why the two Koreas should be reunified. ``We will correct expressions against immigrants in textbooks, but when it comes to reunification, we need to emphasize that Korean people share the same blood,'' said Kim Yoon-ki, the ministry researcher.
Lee O-young, honorary chair professor of Ewha Academy for Advanced Studies and former culture minister, says Koreans have been a mixed people from the beginning and ethnocentrism could be dangerous to today's multicultural society.
``We were originally a mix of marine people and equestrians because Korea is a peninsula. They coexisted and this is the power of Korea,'' Lee told The Korea Times in an interview. ``The perception of `ethnic' actually didn't exist for 19 centuries. However, under Japanese rule, we needed a strong national identity and started to stress that we are homogenous people. The division of the two Koreas has also driven us to emphasize we are analogous people.''
He continued, ``We can say we are a homogenous country. However, the ``mixing of different people'' is the world trend as you learn from the first-ever black U.S. president, President-elect Barack Obama.''
UNESCO has warned Korea against overstressing homogeneity. Lee said Korea should refrain from using the term ``the homogenous people under same ancestry'' in official situations. ``We need to value our own culture and maintain our national identity, though,'' he added.
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There is more to the article. But yeah, it basically shows that yes, Koreans have been taught that they are a homogeneous people but that the times are changing and so are the attitudes. I have certainly come across the whole "proud to be one race" thing, but it has been a long time. Teaching college students for the last 8 years I haven't heard it at all. I'm quite surprised by that video. Hyori or the video script writer is way behind. And who is their target audience? Promoting Korea to others by bragging about Korea's special one-race brotherhood? Makes no sense.
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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That video was made for CNNgo.....whatever that is. Some kind of magazine/lifestyle part of CNN's website......so the target audience is westerners?
Of course, this isn't an impromptu, candid, off-the-cuff interview. This is a produced piece with director, scriptwriter etc......so they presumably put some thought into what Hyo-ri would say and what effect it would have on the viewer.
And that's what leads me to believe that the ethnic purity remarks are not in anyway racist......they're just soundbites of commonly held views by Koreans which they see as just statements of fact and not in any way racist. She might have well have said, 'kimchi is a delicious and very healthy food'.
Hyo-ri's not a racist!! God bless her! She's just spouting what was given to her by a misled producer who thinks racial purity is a selling-point for Korea and will impress foreigners. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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What worries me is that CNN think it is acceptable to put this nonsense online. Racial homogenity was created to bring the Korean people together after the Japanese occupation and Korean war. It was used effectively to motivate workers to work hard for the country. Now it's usefullness has expired and it's fast becoming embarrassing.
Lee-o-young is on the ball. Korea needs to drop this racial homogenity nonsense but should not be afraid to maintain their culture. This culture shouldn't exclude people on the base of their ethnicity.
Shame on *beep*-ee and CNN. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Total racist.
And Koreans are not a race. Asians are a race.
And I guess, if you consider a huge percentage of the Korean population being mixed with the blood of Chinese, Japanese, and now Philipino, Canadian, American, etc., as "homogenous," then.......
I suppose she'd claim that Erich Hammel's group had no children (it's documented that some stayed here and did). Also, what of the various countries that overran Korean for centuries? Do you suppose no children were born out of that? How can she explain the dozens of half-Japanese Koreans I've met over the years who were born and raised here? Of course, it was once very easy for the Korean male to put whatever he wanted into the family book.
Homogeneous.... once "race"... ha... she needs to move up North, where her views are a tiny bit more realistic. |
I don't speak Korean, but I think you need to consider the possibility that CNN translated poorly. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| wow! she sure is sliding downward fast (physically) |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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All she said was that korea is mostly racially homogenous, 99% of the people in Korea are Koreans, so they have a strong connection to each other.
How is that racist? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Oh, I have no doubt there have been racist jackasses all along. When I first lived in Korea, though, they weren't in the forefront as they are now. Most people treated other people like they were other people. |
I would put it the other way round.
It used to be more overt. Yes the 50 yrs+ ajosshis are still a problem at times but they're on a losing phase. |
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Wiltern
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| highstreet wrote: |
All she said was that korea is mostly racially homogenous, 99% of the people in Korea are Koreans, so they have a strong connection to each other.
How is that racist? |
+1. That's exactly what I got out of it and what most rational people would probably conclude as well. But, remember, this is Dave's...the hysteria never ends. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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All she said was that korea is mostly racially homogenous, 99% of the people in Korea are Koreans, so they have a strong connection to each other.
How is that racist?
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The problem is she was promoting that (rather dodgy) fact as some kind of virtue, saying the 'jeong' bonds them all together and makes them think of each other as a single family. Although she didn't say it the implication is there that outsiders or people who are not part of the racial 'brotherhood' are not part of the family. You just can't talk like that in modern times. It sounds slightly sinister and makes people like me, married to a Korean think that people like her would disapprove of having a racially mixed kid because it would aversly affect the racial harmony and dilute 'the family.' |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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All she said was that korea is mostly racially homogenous, 99% of the people in Korea are Koreans, so they have a strong connection to each other.
How is that racist?
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The problem is she was promoting that (rather dodgy) fact as some kind of virtue, saying the 'jeong' bonds them all together and makes them think of each other as a single family. Although she didn't say it the implication is there that outsiders or people who are not part of the racial 'brotherhood' are not part of the family. You just can't talk like that in modern times. It sounds slightly sinister and makes people like me, married to a Korean think that people like her would disapprove of having a racially mixed kid because it would aversly affect the racial harmony and dilute 'the family.' |
I listened to the Korean and not the English subtitles. It doesn't come off that way at all.
Everything she said was true, well the Jeong part not so much. People do talk like this in modern times, everywhere. |
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Wiltern
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Lee Hyo-ri promotes Seoul (and One Race?) |
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you talk about being out of step with modern times, yet you use the word 'chick' to refer to women in this day and age? a lot of women would find that term demeaning and sexist.
you bag on her english...maybe it's because SHE'S KOREAN. i hope you're not a teacher. let's hear your korean. would it be fair for a korean to say your korean is poor. grow up. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Wiltern wrote: |
| highstreet wrote: |
All she said was that korea is mostly racially homogenous, 99% of the people in Korea are Koreans, so they have a strong connection to each other.
How is that racist? |
+1. That's exactly what I got out of it and what most rational people would probably conclude as well. But, remember, this is Dave's...the hysteria never ends. |
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Dave's....gotta luv it!
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Please. Anyone who really knows "Dave's" knows that the OP is far from being the type of poster who "hysterically" finds negative things about Korea at every turn. There are always those who only seem to post here to remind us that they are superior to the hoi polloi of Dave's. |
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