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Revolution in Tunisia, protests in Egypt, unrest in ME
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    Like many others, I am getting tired of the glowing references to �the Arab Awakening� and �the Arab Spring� by na�ve Western media happily ignoring the absolute mayhem and hatred that has burst forth in Arab countries.

    In light of the thousands that have been murdered as a result of this �Springtime�, with its uncomfortable echo of the famous song from the movie and play �The Producers�, for their own sakes it looks like it would be best for the Arabs in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen, Syria and elsewhere to turn the clocks back to winter time and return to their dormant state

    Democracy, �springtime�, and �awakening� in the Arab countries appear to reveal that there is a reason why Arabs have always lived under despots. It was simply safer for everyone.

    http://cifwatch.com/2011/05/09/springtime-for-arabs-in-arabia-the-guardians-glorious-revolution-loses-some-of-its-luster/
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Democracy, �springtime�, and �awakening� in the Arab countries appear to reveal that there is a reason why Arabs have always lived under despots. It was simply safer for everyone.


This is one of the stupider articles I've seen posted in a few days, right up there with some of the conspiracy theory articles, but with the added 'benefit' of racism.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sergio Stefanuto wrote:

Democracy, �springtime�, and �awakening� in the Arab countries appear to reveal that there is a reason why Arabs have always lived under despots. It was simply safer for everyone.

http://cifwatch.com/2011/05/09/springtime-for-arabs-in-arabia-the-guardians-glorious-revolution-loses-some-of-its-luster/[/list]


So you're really adapted the Saudi line of thought huh? Interesting.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bucheon bum wrote:
Sergio Stefanuto wrote:

Democracy, �springtime�, and �awakening� in the Arab countries appear to reveal that there is a reason why Arabs have always lived under despots. It was simply safer for everyone.

http://cifwatch.com/2011/05/09/springtime-for-arabs-in-arabia-the-guardians-glorious-revolution-loses-some-of-its-luster/[/list]


So you're really adapted the Saudi line of thought huh? Interesting.


Say what you want about Sergio, but he takes the considerations of his host country seriously. I doubt he accepts everything, though.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yemeni president goes to Saudi for medical treatment

I doubt he'll be back.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Protestors Celebrate Saleh's Departure

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On Sunday in the capital of Sana, Yemenis crowded into Change Square to celebrate. Some uniformed soldiers joined those dancing and singing patriotic songs and were hoisted on the shoulders of the crowd, according to The Associated Press.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saleh significantly burned

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia � President Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen suffered injuries, far more extensive than previously known in an attack on his presidential palace last week, with burns over 40 percent of his body, Yemeni officials and Western diplomats said Tuesday.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just watched a short piece on Yemen on al-Jazeera. According to that reporter, Saleh's son is really the power in the country now, not the vice president who is refusing to talk to the opposition.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, I believe that. He is the head of the Republican Guard I think. You probably posted this on the Syria thread but why not twice?

Syrian Mutiny Reveals Cracks in Regime

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BEIRUT � A deadly mutiny of Syrian soldiers and loss of control over a tense northern town appeared to show extraordinary cracks in an autocratic regime that has long prided itself on its iron control.

Details about the events in Jisr al-Shughour remained murky on Tuesday. The government said 120 forces were dead, without explaining the enormous loss of life.

But the reports Tuesday from residents and activists � and the television appearance of a soldier who says he switched sides after his hometown was bombarded � were the clearest sign yet that the weekly protests of thousands of Syrians are eroding President Bashar Assad's grip.


Not a big surprise. Gotta kill thousands in order to maintain power. Bashar should know that from his dad's experience in Hama 30 years ago.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you had told me a year ago that there would be serious Syrian protests against the regime, I would've laughed at you. The Libyan rebellion is surprising but the Syrian protests are downright remarkable.

If I were Obama the urge to intervene to protect Jisr al-Shughour with a limited intervention, like the one employed in Libya, would be extremely tempting. Not saying it would be wise.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let's not forget Iraq.

Maliki Asks for Patience for Reforms

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Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki has backed down from a threat to fire poorly-performing cabinet ministers, a move which potentially opens the door to renewed popular protests in the country this summer.

Maliki gave his cabinet a 100-day deadline to improve basic services after a string of anti-government protests across Iraq in February.

He promised to assess their progress at the end of that period, and warned that "changes will be made" at failing ministries.

That deadline expired on Tuesday - and Maliki largely retreated from his threat, instead asking for patience and more time to solve problems.

"There are those who want to confuse the concept of this programme," Maliki said in an address on state television on Monday night.

"They want to push people to force ministers to be accountable for a few things that naturally should take more time."


Good news: Iraq produces more electricity than before the invasion.
Bad news: Its demand has more than doubled in the same amount of time.

edit: cleaned up quote.

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