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da_moler
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:45 am Post subject: |
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I don't think the British, to their credit, are as impressed by looks and alma mater as much as Koreans are..........which is a good thing too because we have an awful lot of ugly people in UK!!!  |
Yes, you're right about that. I noticed that good-looking people actually have a harder time in England, probably due to being totally outnumbered!
Anyway, I'd say looks are a more 'real' quality than your accent and what foods you happen to like eating. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
| violent anti-social chavs |
I'm curious. What are chavs? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| violent anti-social chavs |
I'm curious. What are chavs? |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chav |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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So they're like goths who drink too much booze and conduct violence in public? Interesting. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| da_moler wrote: |
I noticed that good-looking people actually have a harder time in England, probably due to being totally outnumbered!
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my life was a living hell for this very reason. I thought I could escape it by coming to Korea, but you can imagine the horror when people said I look like Brad Pitt/Matt Damon/Tom Cruise. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Bad food
bad weather
cold and unfriendly people
the high cost of living
frustrating bureaucracy that makes getting things done a real chore expensive & slow internet
violent anti-social chavs
shops and pubs closing early
the class system
tabloids
pompousness of people
violent crimes
rampant drug abuse
teenage pregnancy
failing economy
struggling healthcare system
over-burdened welfare state
massive divide between the rich and poor
overpriced and unreliable public transport
intellectual snobbery
The class issue |
The assumption that all men are basically bad/ up to no good. A group of two or more women often view you as the enemy.
The default setting of suspicion and agression.
The behaviour of dumb, unintelligent, working class people.
The behaviour of dumb, pompous middle class people.
The fact you may well have to travel to the next city to find an internet cafe with a scanner and printer that works.
The advertising of "all day breakfast" everywhere as if it was a novel idea.
The terribly-behaved antisocial young folks taking over public transport.
The fact that half the country have no life but live vicariously through watching soaps and reality TV.
The way the media both publicly condemns, then subtly glamorises all forms of social degeneracy.
Parochialism. The lack of international experience of modern british people. A week in Majorca does not amount to experiencing a foreign culture. |
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hwa jang shil
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Nandos, European weekend getaways, no mosquitos, Chris Morris lives there, people are allowed to have hobbies/interests that are not beneficial to their health or intelligence.
I still prefer living here though. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| da_moler wrote: |
| I noticed that good-looking people actually have a harder time in England, probably due to being totally outnumbered! |
I have to dress like a slob in the UK just to be treated like a normal person.  |
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Mariella713
Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| I love London. I lived in South London since I was 11 and seriously, I can't believe how many people take living in a place like London for granted. It's one of the best cities in the world. All the people on here who whine seem to come from areas full of white chavs or something. If you're a happy and friendly person, people will be friendly back to you, simple as. Stop being such a misery and get a life. |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, violent crimes, rampant drug abuse, teenage pregnancy, failing economy, struggling healthcare system, over-burdened welfare state, massive divide between the rich and poor, overpriced and unreliable public transport, intellectual snobbery, etc. |
...and it has spread to America (thanks Democrats).
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mariella713 wrote: |
| I love London. I lived in South London since I was 11 and seriously, I can't believe how many people take living in a place like London for granted. It's one of the best cities in the world. All the people on here who whine seem to come from areas full of white chavs or something. If you're a happy and friendly person, people will be friendly back to you, simple as. Stop being such a misery and get a life. |
London is a great city. Try living in Portsmouth, Stockport, Walsall, or any of the less internationalised cities. |
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joyorbison
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Hating chavs is the most classist hobby out there. Americans ask what are chavs sometimes and British people are like "Well... erm... they are just horrible... erm... they dress like sh!t... erm... they attack people." The real answer though is that chav's = poor people. British people hate to admit that. |
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joyorbison
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, violent crimes, rampant drug abuse, teenage pregnancy, failing economy, struggling healthcare system, over-burdened welfare state, massive divide between the rich and poor, overpriced and unreliable public transport, intellectual snobbery, etc. |
...and it has spread to America (thanks Democrats).
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Are you a soldier? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be very surprised if there were any working class British people contributing to Daves ESL cafe as you need a degree to work in Korea for starters and a wide enough perspective to know that teaching English abroad would even be a possibility. There may be people with working class backgrounds on here who like to assert their identity by playing up their humble tastes and interests but this is something people primarily do in and just after university when these things seem important.
As they get older, intelligent people, and presumably you must have a degree of intelliegence even these days to go to university, will naturally gravitate towards the middle class way of looking at things. Ie planning for the future, putting money aside instead of spending it all in the pub on a friday night, thinking about their kids' education, eating the kind of food that won't give you a heart attack in your fifties etc... etc...There may still be a few cultural elements that divide the classes, such as the newspaper you read, the tv programmes you watch the live entertainment you like but the gap is getting narrower all the time as the loftier examples of these have shown a tendency to dumb down. As many social commentators have warned, however the gap between the underclass and people with jobs is getting bigger and bigger with more and more families having several generations of unemployed. It'll be interesting to see how the new government's policy on benefit dependency will affect this underclass in years to come. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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The irony is that despite the class-conscious nature of the British, most people could not define what each class is. Is it your job, your education, income, hobbies and interests, or where you live that make you working/middle/upper class etc?
I have no idea where I belong on the spectrum. I grew up piss poor and now I'm still fairly poor, but I have a degree. I don't really want to waste time pigeon-holing people, so it's annoying when you meet new people in England and one of the first questions they ask will most likely be, "What do you do?" |
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