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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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 Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: SWAT Team Raids Man�s Home Over Student Loans |
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http://nation.foxnews.com/justice/2011/06/08/swat-team-raids-man-s-home-over-student-loans
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STOCKTON, CA - Kenneth Wright does not have a criminal record and he had no reason to believe a S.W.A.T team would be breaking down his door at 6 a.m. on Tuesday.
"I look out of my window and I see 15 police officers," Wright said.
Wright came downstairs in his boxer shorts as a S.W.A.T team barged through his front door. Wright said an officer grabbed him by the neck and led him outside on his front lawn.
"He had his knee on my back and I had no idea why they were there," Wright said.
According to Wright, officers also woke his three young children ages 3, 7, and 11 and put them in a Stockton police patrol car with him. Officers then searched his house.
As it turned out, the person law enforcement was looking for was not there - Wright's estranged wife.
"They put me in handcuffs in that hot patrol car for six hours, traumatizing my kids," Wright said.
Wright said he later went to the mayor and Stockton Police Department, but the City of Stockton had nothing to do with Wright's search warrant.
The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans.
"They busted down my door for this," Wright said. "It wasn't even me."
According to the Department of Education's Office of the Inspector General, the case can't be discussed publicly until it is closed, but a spokesperson did confirm that the department did issue the search warrant at Wright's home.
The Office of the Inspector General has a law enforcement branch of federal agents that carry out search warrants and investigations.
Stockton Police Department said it was asked by federal agents to provide one officer and one patrol car just for a police presence when carrying out the search warrant.
Stockton police did not participate in breaking Wright's door, handcuffing him, or searching his home.
"All I want is an apology for me and my kids and for them to get me a new door," Wright said.
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jodemas2
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Holy [Mod Edit]! This definitely belongs on the police state thread.
So they thought she was there with hordes of cash stashed away and she just didn't want to pay back her loan? What were they looking for? Or do we now have debtor's prison in the US? |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| there has to be something else other than student loans to merit this. We don't have all the info yet since it hasn't been disclosed. Could even be an elaborate hoax. |
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jodemas2
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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^ There is nothing in the article to indicate that though.
It does sound pretty incredible, but OTOH, little surprises me anymore. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| jodemas2 wrote: |
Holy F***! This definitely belongs on the police state thread.
So they thought she was there with hordes of cash stashed away and she just didn't want to pay back her loan? What were they looking for? Or do we now have debtor's prison in the US? |
Yeah right. She lives in Stockton. That alone would tell anyone that she doesn't have a dime to her name. If she did, she sure as heck wouldn't be living in the worst city in Northern California. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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The raid was not about a student loan. The husband made that claim, not the police nor the Dept of Ed.
Seems to be over some other investigation - fraud maybe - we'll see.
However, that doesn't mean that the government wasn't too intrusive and violent. They could have entered peacefully with a proper warrant and conducted a search. If the children and husband aren't suspects at all, they shouldn't have been treated like ... actually, nobody should be treated like they were. Innocents should be escorted out in a caring manner and made comfortable during a search.
Police State USA. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhhh Dave's, where a Hagwon owner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a criminal, but a student-loaner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a victim.
As far as I can tell intentionally not paying back a student loan is tantamount to fraud, in some cases of over 100,000 dollars. Certainly worth a "takedown" by the boys in blue.
If someone defrauded you of 100,000 you certainly wouldn't mind them getting a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Ahhhh Dave's, where a Hagwon owner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a criminal, but a student-loaner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a victim.
As far as I can tell intentionally not paying back a student loan is tantamount to fraud, in some cases of over 100,000 dollars. Certainly worth a "takedown" by the boys in blue. |
That's inaccurate. Intentionally receiving a student loan without a present intent to repay is fraud, as are other schemes, many of which involve using the student loan money for other purposes.
There is an entire area of the law that releases people from their loan obligations because they cannot repay their loans, despite their good faith attempts to do so. It is called bankruptcy. |
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Kepler
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Where is the common sense in all this with the police? Are the SWAT people that bored? They do research the people they are supposed to serve warrants don't they? No history of violence. No arrests or convictions. For all intents and purposes a regular working family. Hmmm...come in guns blazing anyway as if I'm taking down a serial killer.
As the commander, or even the chie of police or some authority figure within the department...maybe....just maybe...its a better use of time and resources to simply handle it differently? Less fan fare? Jus saying. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Madness. Even if it is fraud, why use SWAT? |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Ahhhh Dave's, where a Hagwon owner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a criminal, but a student-loaner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a victim.
As far as I can tell intentionally not paying back a student loan is tantamount to fraud, in some cases of over 100,000 dollars. Certainly worth a "takedown" by the boys in blue.
If someone defrauded you of 100,000 you certainly wouldn't mind them getting a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing. |
I kinda hope you get a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing someday for no good reason (or maybe for a reason that might warrant it in some peoples' eyes, such as not paying back a parking ticket on time? ie. "tantamount to fraud"  ). Then you can get back to us afterward and let us know if you still feel the same way. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Ahhhh Dave's, where a Hagwon owner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a criminal, but a student-loaner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a victim.
As far as I can tell intentionally not paying back a student loan is tantamount to fraud, in some cases of over 100,000 dollars. Certainly worth a "takedown" by the boys in blue.
If someone defrauded you of 100,000 you certainly wouldn't mind them getting a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing. |
I kinda hope you get a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing someday for no good reason (or maybe for a reason that might warrant it in some peoples' eyes, such as not paying back a parking ticket on time? ie. "tantamount to fraud" ). Then you can get back to us afterward and let us know if you still feel the same way. |
Dude you're comparing a parking ticket, which is say 100 bucks, to defrauding someone of 25-100 thousand dollars?
I'm sorry but if I loaned someone 25 grand, and instead of paying me back they sat around, shot out kids, and smoked a bunch of pot, then yeah, they are asking for a slam.
So its wrong to rip 25,000 off from a friend but its okay to do it to a lending institution?
How would you react if I conned you out of 25 large?
That's a perfectly good reason for a cop slam.
And yes you can make the payments, stop toking up and drinking a 30 case and get a 2nd job. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
| Where is the common sense in all this with the police? They do research the people they are supposed to serve warrants don't they? No history of violence. No arrests or convictions. For all intents and purposes a regular working family. |
You forgot to mention the part about the person they were after not even living at that residence.... |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| visitorq wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Ahhhh Dave's, where a Hagwon owner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a criminal, but a student-loaner who doesn't pay according to their contract is a victim.
As far as I can tell intentionally not paying back a student loan is tantamount to fraud, in some cases of over 100,000 dollars. Certainly worth a "takedown" by the boys in blue.
If someone defrauded you of 100,000 you certainly wouldn't mind them getting a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing. |
I kinda hope you get a nice cop slam and rough handcuffing someday for no good reason (or maybe for a reason that might warrant it in some peoples' eyes, such as not paying back a parking ticket on time? ie. "tantamount to fraud" ). Then you can get back to us afterward and let us know if you still feel the same way. |
Dude you're comparing a parking ticket, which is say 100 bucks, to defrauding someone of 25-100 thousand dollars?
I'm sorry but if I loaned someone 25 grand, and instead of paying me back they sat around, shot out kids, and smoked a bunch of pot, then yeah, they are asking for a slam.
So its wrong to rip 25,000 off from a friend but its okay to do it to a lending institution?
How would you react if I conned you out of 25 large?
That's a perfectly good reason for a cop slam.
And yes you can make the payments, stop toking up and drinking a 30 case and get a 2nd job. |
Anyone still wondering how the USA has become a police state?
Justifying over the top police actions. :sigh: I wish steelrails was unique in his vewpoint, but sadly it is pretty common. |
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