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How do you shut rude kids up that you meet on the street.
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly, I'd rather live in a place where random people (both children and adults) say "hi" to me than a city where eye contact can get you shot (southeast DC, New York, Detroit...)
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you shut rude kids up that you meet on the street Reply with quote

I glare at one of them with a furious look on my face, and walk towards him. It scares the p1ss out of them. I did this to a group of kids a while back in my neighborhood, and they haven't bothered me since having seen me several times.

That's the kids who are just being rude and trying to show off to their friends by being rude and disrespectful to you, not common in my experience, just occasionally. The ones who are really sweet, usually girls, I always say hi back and smile.


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Universalis



Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with jenny33. Obviously, their parents don't teach them that pointing and yelling at a foreigner/another living, breathing human being is wrong, so it's up to their unfortunate target to let them know what they're doing is just not cool.

Sometime I ignore them, but most of the time I tell them to take a hike.

Bad attitude? Sure... maybe. But my friendly, naive foreigner soaking up all the attention phase ended sometime in 1998.

Brian
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mourningclam



Joined: 27 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the supposed "adults" sometimes irritate the situation. About two years ago I was on a crowded elevator, of course the only foriegner present. There was this one woman, I reckon to be in her 20s, teaching this little girl the middle finger and the words "f**k you" right in front of me. I wish I knew some of the Korean that I know now.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is very situational, but mostly I ignore the buggers, a hard stare works wonders if it is the right things to do, but ingoring them works best. Another poster brought up the aspect of social skills in learning a language, and I couldn't agree more. Even really good speakers of English I find sometimes have no clue about social skills within the language they are using.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mourningclam wrote:
If they call you "mi gook saram", just point at them and call them Japanese, "il bon saram".



I think they speak so quickly it's hard to distinguish whether they are saying "mi guk saram" - american, or "wae guk saram" - foreigner in general.

I start speaking to them in English as fast as I can make up things to say and they usually get freaked out and run off.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the reaction depends on one's mood most of the time. When I am feeling good the greetings don't bother me. However, If I want some space, and I'm in anti social mode, then it has the potential to drive me mad!
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They always say "Hi" to me in that questioning intonation. I always reply "No, just happy". Laughing
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
They always say "Hi" to me in that questioning intonation. I always reply "No, just happy". Laughing


Clever, but think they may not catch that one...hehe. As long as it makes you happy, Rapier, keep it up.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swiss James wrote:

Kids coming up and saying hi on the street is not the same as you saying "Anyung Haseo" to a korean back home, it's much closer to a kid going up to someone dressed as Mickey Mouse in Disneyland and saying "Hi!". It may be annoying that you can't take that costume off, but it's also the reason someone paid to fly you here and teach their kids.

*awaits flames on why I'm totally out of order*


LOL....actually that's as bang on as bang on gets.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only way to silence them is to traumatize them so dramatically that they become speechless and just kind of hough out silent cries of confusion and trama....

this can be accomplished by the following ways:

1. make him/her watch violent Quinton Tarantino movies over and over again for a 24 hour period.

2. tie the kid to a chair and plant a bomb to his chest..let the kid be able to see the timer...then as the time for explosion nears act like you fall asleep...

3. tell the kid his parents work for you and you might fire them...well heck, you will fire them..that'll mean the kid and his family will be broke and the parent's won't be able to support the kid and will have to give him/her up for adoption...
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
It is very situational, but mostly I ignore the buggers, a hard stare works wonders if it is the right things to do, but ingoring them works best. Another poster brought up the aspect of social skills in learning a language, and I couldn't agree more. Even really good speakers of English I find sometimes have no clue about social skills within the language they are using.


Thats actually a valid point...the number of times I've seen english speakers insensitively calling out "comment ta'ppeles tu" or whatever to french people, or generally being loutish in a variety of clumsily inflicted languages, is no different to kids shouting out "hi" here.
In England for example i remember kids shouting out bruce lee stuff at a passing "chinaman'...
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JennyJJ



Joined: 01 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapier makes a great point - just put the situation in your own culture and see if it is appropriate. Most often it isn't.

Excusing the behavior because it is "just kids" only leads to - what happens often at my unversity: a 26 year old female going, "Hhhhiiiiiieeee" giggle giggle hee hee he he he. So, where in the process should you stop that behavior and show someone what is appropriate? I'd say when you teach it. Or as soon as possible after that.
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ladyandthetramp



Joined: 21 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: hello Reply with quote

I can't speak for other countries, but in America, do you think it's appropriate for a child to run up to a first-generation Mexican immigrant, yell "hola," and run away laughing?

If you see that, do you think it is cute? Or do you think the child is being rude and needs to be taught what isn't acceptable?
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man... scanning this thread proves to me that the esl teacher community is plagued by a bunch of blubbering va_ginas. pull your socks up and stop the whining. they're kids.
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