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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Free talking with kids/ conversation Reply with quote

How does one succeed at "free talking" with kids? I'm having trouble with my lunchtime conversation class. It's about 8 kids, boys and girls, advanced students. They don't like adult-type discussions, and it seems they don't like the topics and readings I pick. They like chit chatting over games, but I teach with a coteacher who thinks we should be reading something.

What shall I do?

Oh, also... if one were to do a free-talking class with one kid (elementary age), what would one do? Chat over coloring or card games? I suspect that's the way to do... Any advice?
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Malislamusrex



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You claim you are increasing students non linguistic skill in a unstructured environment.

Get a football from the PE teacher... and enjoy.
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Kaypea



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm thinking I could keep the readings very light, very cursory... And then do something fun together... I was thinking some crafts, but why not something sporty?

Actually, next session, I promised to show some "video clips". Which clips are sure to please? What kind of speaking activity could follow?
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
Yeah, I'm thinking I could keep the readings very light, very cursory... And then do something fun together... I was thinking some crafts, but why not something sporty?

Actually, next session, I promised to show some "video clips". Which clips are sure to please? What kind of speaking activity could follow?


Go into youtube and punch in "What happens Next?" These are like American's funniest video's except they stop the video and the students guess what will happen next? There are several of these video's some have multiple choice answers some don't. It's best to show a multiple choice one first until the tsudents learn how to do it.
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Setaro



Joined: 08 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Free talking with kids/ conversation Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
How does one succeed at "free talking" with kids? I'm having trouble with my lunchtime conversation class. It's about 8 kids, boys and girls, advanced students. They don't like adult-type discussions, and it seems they don't like the topics and readings I pick. They like chit chatting over games, but I teach with a coteacher who thinks we should be reading something.

What shall I do?


Always ask the students what topics they're interested in. If they like sports, video games/manga/comics, then talk about those. It's also pretty easy to find some English language manga/comics and print out a few pages for reading in class.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 2 things that I try doing. Advanced students come in 2 varieties. You have advanced students who are simply ahead of the other students because they have spent more time studying or they pick up on the language faster. With those students I use a site like http://www.rong-chang.com/

I pick a short reading section and paste them twice into a new document. Then, replace difficult words with blanks with the bottom one. Students write down the missing words on the sides or bottom of the sheet. Don't have them write these words where the blanks are unless you are teaching a mixed level class. In that case, the lower level students can do this.

After they list all the missing words, have them practice reading the bottom one trying to remember which words go in the blanks. They can also add new words. Also, go over the meaning of each word so they understand and have them make new sentences.

The other kind of advanced student is usually pushed by their parents to go above and beyond the other advanced students. They tend to get worn out because of this. You could have them write diary entries and correct them. For a game, you could have short readings at various levels.

For a book, you could integrate this into a game. Instead of having a student read a whole book, summarize the book up to a certain point and then have them read a target portion. This will allow them to be part of the book but not waste time reading it all.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advanced kids? Awesome, sounds like fun. Taught 'em before and it's easy because you can talk about all sorts of nonsense. How old are they, around ten? What do all kids like? Cartoons, video games, comic books, some other stuff. If ya can do, some games can help. Monopoly? Good for language and fun. Dunno just throw something out there. Really, advanced kids are great, you can do so much when they have good ability in English. A "hint game" is something you can get a lot of mileage out of too. Everyone has a bunch of words to describe, and others guess what they are talking about. 20 questions? Oh, there's a lot you can do with that group. Do some reading, but have some fun.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about you start a fantasy story. Start off by giving each student a fantasy character name or let them choose their own names. Usually I go with animals. Next, maybe for homework, have them give their characters a special power. Have them describe their characters. After they have learned about all the characters in the story, they can each take turns implementing other fantasy characters in the classroom into their own story. Then you can get them thinking about what planet they're from (made-up planet) and have them each describe their planets. Go from there.

That's one idea, anyway.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advanced girls, which I think you are more likely to run into, don't fantasize about characters with degrees of power like boys do. They are more likely to pretend there is a princess in a castle and draw chariots.
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WadRUG'naDoo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
Advanced girls, which I think you are more likely to run into, don't fantasize about characters with degrees of power like boys do. They are more likely to pretend there is a princess in a castle and draw chariots.


Leave it up to the students. They can discuss it...
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WadRUG'naDoo wrote:
koreatimes wrote:
Advanced girls, which I think you are more likely to run into, don't fantasize about characters with degrees of power like boys do. They are more likely to pretend there is a princess in a castle and draw chariots.


Leave it up to the students. They can discuss it...


Actually, the girls really love fantasy, like Avatar, Twilight, and Inception.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to implement some of these, starting with "what happens next videos" and always being prepared to play 20 questions...
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
WadRUG'naDoo wrote:
koreatimes wrote:
Advanced girls, which I think you are more likely to run into, don't fantasize about characters with degrees of power like boys do. They are more likely to pretend there is a princess in a castle and draw chariots.


Leave it up to the students. They can discuss it...


Actually, the girls really love fantasy, like Avatar, Twilight, and Inception.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to implement some of these, starting with "what happens next videos" and always being prepared to play 20 questions...


I am only speaking from experience, not taking a personal preference here. I had advanced girls and they drew princesses and chariots going up to a castle. They read about it too. Perhaps the parents pushed them, but I definitely couldn't get them interested in drawing monsters or superheroes.
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