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I was arrested in korea
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bongshik83



Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:25 am    Post subject: I was arrested in korea Reply with quote

I was arrested a couple of months ago because i caused some damage to a car when i was under the influence of booze.

Anyway i got charged with criminal damage even though i never admitted anything. I payed my money to the owner of the car said sorry and all was forgotten about.

But recently my school is doing criminal checks on all employees, should i be worried?

It never went to court or anything but the cop said i will have a record of arrest...
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I would think you should be worried. Don't know if anyone can help you out on this one.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So go to the cops, get a criminal records check for yourself stating that it's for your job.
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally, you wouldn't have to worry because you were not found guilty in a court of law but for some reason I got the feeling you told somebody at work about the situation and now they want to get rid of you. Next time don't tell anyone or better yet grow up and stop vandalizing property you mean drunk.
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bongshik83



Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why did u get that feeling, i never told anyone about it
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bongshik83 wrote:
why did u get that feeling, i never told anyone about it


Because people have big mouths, spill the beans much to often and hagwons don't do criminal record checks on E-2 visa holders which I'm assuming you have and I'm guessing you already submitted a criminal record check to Immigration. If the police know where you work(you provided someone your ARC) they could've called your employer and your employer may now want to get rid of you. Your actions could give them justification for ending your contract.


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maladict23



Joined: 17 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
Normally, you wouldn't have to worry because you were not found guilty in a court of law but for some reason I got the feeling you told somebody at work about the situation and now they want to get rid of you. Next time don't tell anyone or better yet grow up and stop vandalizing property you mean drunk.


haha, busted!!

loose lips sink ships.

Don't tell anyone at work anything about your private life.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
bongshik83 wrote:
why did u get that feeling, i never told anyone about it


Because people have big mouths, spill the beans much to often and hagwons don't do criminal record checks on E-2 visa holders which I'm assuming you have and I'm guessing you already submitted a criminal record check to Immigration. If the police know where you work(you provided someone your ARC) they could've called your employer and your employer may now want to get rid of you. Your actions could give them justification for ending your contract.


Wow! What's my dead mother saying right now? Does she miss me? Is there anything important she wants to tell me?
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bongshik83



Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your off on a rant of your own

i dont work for a hagwon in the first place and second everyone has to do a criminal record check in my school while IN KOREA. i dont have any record outside of here "mr know it all"

if u have nothing relevant to the question then i dont wanna read your judging im a know it all rants
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: I was arrested in korea Reply with quote

bongshik83 wrote:
But recently my school is doing criminal checks on all employees, should i be worried?


All the public schools are doing record checks. I think I posted the contents of the form here.
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highstreet



Joined: 13 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a person who got in trouble doing the same thing.

Took a cab home, was drunk, thought the cabby was overcharging him, kicked the cab door, went inside and fell asleep. Cabby called the cops but he wouldn't open the door or couldn't hear the door.

Anyways the next morning on his door is a note to call the police, he went they told him what happend. The cabby came, he paid the cash and that was it.

He was never formally arrested, and he's probably had like 10 different jobs since then so...I think you should be fine.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highstreet wrote:
I know a person who got in trouble doing the same thing.

Took a cab home, was drunk, thought the cabby was overcharging him, kicked the cab door, went inside and fell asleep. Cabby called the cops but he wouldn't open the door or couldn't hear the door.

Anyways the next morning on his door is a note to call the police, he went they told him what happend. The cabby came, he paid the cash and that was it.

He was never formally arrested, and he's probably had like 10 different jobs since then so...I think you should be fine.



This brings up more questions:

1) Did the person you know with the subsequent spotty work history ever have to produce a Korean CBC for his employer?

2) Was this person actually arrested, or was he allowed to settle the charges in a prior to arrest situation and thereby prevent formal criminal charges?

3) In Korea, does the settlement of claims through cash payment to the victim ( known as "blood money" under some circumstances) cause the underlying charge to not only be dismissed but also expunged in some cases, many cases, never ... ?
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should you be worried?

Absolutely not. You don't have a criminal record; though your fingerprints are likely in the system. In the Korean criminal system, only outstanding warrants/ convictions will matter in terms of your criminal record. And even if this minor infraction shows up on your record (through some newly adopted, likely US-led, bastardization of the criminal record system), it is not grounds to fire you for the simple reasons that 1) you were never tried and convicted (which in most cases frees you from having a Korean criminal record) and 2) you settled the matter out of court.

My recommendation: Relax and let them do the check, you should be fine. Now that your major f-up is behind you, focus on being a better teacher. Replace swimming in booze with learning how to conjugate simply verbs like 'pay' in your first post above. (Payed means slacken and should be used in reference to ropes or lines)

Additional info regarding #1 above. If you paid a fine, then most likely you were acting through the prosecutor's office, i.e. it never went to court. A prosecutor has the ability to take this to court and give you a record, but prosecutors do not have the ability to write up criminal records or adjudicate on your culpability. Though in the US an FBI check should show that you were arrested and fined, I believe that the Korean National System (likely due to the high density of population & high number of accusations/ infractions) only accounts for warrants and convictions, i.e. you don't have a record. I know it's only a belief, but it's a pretty strong one.

In terms of the cop's opinion, remember that few civil servants on his/ her level know anything about the legal system (esp. when it comes to foreigners). Their jobs are to serve, protect, and record, not judge or prophesy.

Sleep well.
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DHC



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the KR police entered your arrest in the system, regardless of if you were formally charged, Immigration will not renew your visa.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are on an E2 then you should be worried. To renew your visa and contract with the school you need to present a criminal record check from your home country. I am not sure if a criminal check in korea is asked for or not? anyone know this?

in case of a F2 you should be sweet as they don't ask for a criminal check do they?

sorry I can't help more.
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