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Do Hogwans/Private schools hire different ethnic groups?
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LGSakers



Joined: 23 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Do Hogwans/Private schools hire different ethnic groups? Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

I have some friends, a couple, looking for work in Korea. Both have a BA, and one is a qualified teacher with experience (roughly 8 months worth).

Both were born in Canada and native English speakers. But each time they apply for work, they're asked what ethnicity they are (one is Indian, the other is Iranian). When they tell them, they're told no one will hire them.

I would greatly appreciate any help with this... options for them, if they should just try another country, etc.

Thanks.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They need to learn to give the right answer.

Ethnicity is "Canadian". They were born there.

ANY other answer (factual or not) will result in the application heading for the round file bin.

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LGSakers



Joined: 23 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!

How about when they send their photos in? They certainly aren't white.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LGSakers wrote:
Thank you!

How about when they send their photos in? They certainly aren't white.


Doesn't mean they are not Canadian.

Just means they were "out in the sun". It is summer time after all.

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suki



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you think they ask for photos?

No. They will be hired as last resort only. Take it from me, I'm a NET who's ethnically Korean. Only the public schools will give me the time of day.
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TeacherinDeajeon



Joined: 09 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suki wrote:
Why do you think they ask for photos?

No. They will be hired as last resort only. Take it from me, I'm a NET who's ethnically Korean. Only the public schools will give me the time of day.


While you may fall into the "last resort hire" or "not a chance" pile, you might stumble upon a hagwon that will hire you. Just keep looking and be prepared to wait a long time.

OP, if it matters, I have worked with or known 3 people who are Indian, in the public school system. And others of various shapes and sizes. I have even worked with or known many ethnically Korean NET's. There is hope if you are willing to be extremely patient.

My advice would be to take a picture with some Korean children laughing and smiling with you and strike a teacher-esque pose. And don't forget to photoshop the picture to lighten your skin color.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeacherinDeajeon wrote:
suki wrote:
Why do you think they ask for photos?

No. They will be hired as last resort only. Take it from me, I'm a NET who's ethnically Korean. Only the public schools will give me the time of day.


While you may fall into the "last resort hire" or "not a chance" pile, you might stumble upon a hagwon that will hire you. Just keep looking and be prepared to wait a long time.

OP, if it matters, I have worked with or known 3 people who are Indian, in the public school system. And others of various shapes and sizes. I have even worked with or known many ethnically Korean NET's. There is hope if you are willing to be extremely patient.

My advice would be to take a picture with some Korean children laughing and smiling with you and strike a teacher-esque pose. And don't forget to photoshop the picture to lighten your skin color.


Not sure if serious.

OP your chances are slim to none. I've never met an Indian/Iranian English teacher before, and I live in Seoul.
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suki



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've met an East Indian NET before, but again this is only with the public schools and they are only hired as a last resort.

It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Maybe if they respond to an off-season notice, that would increase their chances. Only that might indicate a difficult situation to be entering into, and with GEPIK at least they're trying to eliminate off-season hires.

Or they might try applying to school districts directly, as then the schools don't have to pay recruiter fees.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually at my old job they hired a Muslim guy.

Yes I'm aware Muslim is not a race/ethnicity but I couldn't tell you what he was. If I had to guess I'd say he was Egyptian. But he got hired because his girlfriend was a pretty hot little white girl (something he even admitted when I talked with him).

If you want the contact info of the school, I can give it to you. They are large, always hiring, I've seen other backgrounds not caucasian besides that guy, and as long as you're willing to accept crap housing, crap pay, and crap hours (even though the work itself is good) you at least have a puncher's chance at getting hired.
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TellyRules986



Joined: 09 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Do Hogwans/Private schools hire different ethnic groups?"

Yes. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Just apply and don't be unreasonable with the demands.
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