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Kheldar
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Which program was she using to scan for viruses? Most of the Mac anti-virus apps use a database that is filled with both PC an Mac threats. As you know, there are some trojan horses out there that will affect the Mac, but there are tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of threats for the PC.
In all likelihood, the app she was running found viruses or malware that affect the PC and not the Mac. These apps check for PC viruses because many Mac users run Windows via Bootcamp or Parallels/Fusion.
See if it gives you names of the "malware" it found and then run a Google search to see what it is. My bet is that it's a PC only malware that was in something she downloaded. |
The man didn't ask how many more viruses were written on the PC compared to the Mac. Why must you take every opportunity to bash on PCs? We all know PCs have more viruses because they outsell Macs 10 to 1. The man said he was getting pop ups so he obviously has something. |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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There are far more viruses/malware for the PC. I told him that it is likely he has picked up one of these and that the anti-virus app is simply seeing this PC virus as a potential threat to a Bootcamp install.
Mac anti-virus software also finds PC viruses. There is a 1% chance his software has found a piece of malware for the Mac. There is a 99% chance it has found one for Windows, that in no way will affect his Mac system, but could potentially move to a Bootcamp install. See how the numbers are important here.
I'll give you time to catch up.
Once again, your reading skills fail you. I really hope you don't teach English here in Korea. With your reading comprehension skills, that would really be embarrassing. |
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Kheldar
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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There are far more viruses/malware for the PC. I told him that it is likely he has picked up one of these and that the anti-virus app is simply seeing this PC virus as a potential threat to a Bootcamp install.
Mac anti-virus software also finds PC viruses. There is a 1% chance his software has found a piece of malware for the Mac. There is a 99% chance it has found one for Windows, that in no way will affect his Mac system, but could potentially move to a Bootcamp install. See how the numbers are important here.
I'll give you time to catch up.
Once again, your reading skills fail you. I really hope you don't teach English here in Korea. With your reading comprehension skills, that would really be embarrassing. |
Nobody asks or cares for your statistics. I never got a virus on any of my PCs in over 20 years of usage so your stats are meaningless. But people can get them, including Mac users, and the best thing they can do is be aware of what websites they're visiting, programs they're installing, and use an anti-virus program.
I know you easily run out of things to say because of your limited mental capacity but to constantly repeat the same feeble attempts of insults are an indicator of a far more serious mental disorder, and you should consider getting professional help. |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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So people can get viruses and do get viruses, but because you never have, mine or any other statistics are meaningless? Do you hear yourself? Seriously. Think about that for a minute. Again, I'll give you time to catch up with the rest of us.
And on the issue of repeating, what about you? You use the same argument over and over that there are only 100 Macs in the world and that nobody uses them so nobody cares. Or you use the argument about how Macs are too expensive and that people only buy them for the glowing Apple.
Guess it's time for you to get some help for your mental disorder, but I fear it is beyond repair. Sorry dude, you'll just have to live with your limitations.
Now go whine and cry because someone isn't being nice to you. |
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Kheldar
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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So people can get viruses and do get viruses, but because you never have, mine or any other statistics are meaningless? Do you hear yourself? Seriously. Think about that for a minute. Again, I'll give you time to catch up with the rest of us.
And on the issue of repeating, what about you? You use the same argument over and over that there are only 100 Macs in the world and that nobody uses them so nobody cares. Or you use the argument about how Macs are too expensive and that people only buy them for the glowing Apple.
Guess it's time for you to get some help for your mental disorder, but I fear it is beyond repair. Sorry dude, you'll just have to live with your limitations.
Now go whine and cry because someone isn't being nice to you. |
Do you know how statistics work? The fact that you get viruses do not increase the chances of me getting a virus. Even if only 1% of Mac users get viruses, that offers little consolation to those who do get infected.
If 100 Mac users were in a room with no internet connection and another 100 Mac users were in another room downloading torrents and porn, guess which group would get more viruses? Why don't you process that little bit of information for now and next week, I'll give you another lesson on when children attempt to insult adults, the end result is humorous, not whining and crying. |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I know how statistics work, but apparently you do not. Once again proving what a great teacher you must be. Your reading comprehension skills cease to amaze!
The answer is NEITHER GROUP!!!!!
As has already been stated and proven, THERE ARE NO VIRUSES ON THE MAC.
Trojan horses, yes. Other malware, yes. Viruses: NO!!!!
And dude, it is humorous when you try to insult adults on this forum. So when are you going to stop trying to insult all of us adults? |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Chokse, you really need to calm down. It's pretty obvious to just about anyone with half of a functioning brain that Kheldar is just toying with you. I'm sure he knows that there are more than 100 Macs in use in the world. I'm sure he's also just using that number as an exaggeration to get to you.
Also, stop fixating on the word virus, it's often used incorrectly in computer speak. Malware/Trojan horses/Viruses/Whatever are bad. The point is that most Mac users don't think they can get any of them. They think they are immune. Are they? Of course not. Are they more secure? Almost certainly.
The worst thing is that people (Mac users included) make the very faulty assumption that just because something was true in the past means it will always be true in the future. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| As has already been stated and proven, THERE ARE NO VIRUSES ON THE MAC. |
And a very quick search pulls up this story from 2006.
http://news.techworld.com/security/5392/worlds-first-os-x-virus-hits-apple/
I don't know if it's true, but I'm sure you'll find a misplaced comma and use that mistake to try to rubbish the entire story. |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Even though the article refers to it as a virus, it is not a virus. It is a trojan horse. There is a big difference. Viruses and worms can be executed without user involvement. A trojan horse must be executed by the user. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Cluley said that some Apple users were claiming that Leap-A was somehow not a real virus because it required the victim to click on the link, an objection he branded as ridiculous. Many PC viruses needed user interaction to set off infection, he pointed out, and this was no different. |
What are your credentials as an expert on viruses that makes your opinion more valid than that guy's?
Actually, I don't really care. You're obviously addicted to the Kool-Aid, so I'm not gonna argue with you.
They say that arguing with an idiot just makes you an idiot, and that's not my goal in life, so good-bye. |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: |
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My credentials are not relevant. We are talking about vocabulary words that are defined in the dictionary. I would suggest you try opening one as it can be an enlightening experience.
If there were no difference between virus, trojan horse, or worm, we would only use one word to define any of these. The fact is that we have numerous words for different types of malware because they are different. Thus, they have different names and different definitions. |
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