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SoccerFan81
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: Dress code funny... |
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One of my colleagues showed up at work (office) with his collared golf shirt untucked from his khaki pants. He's maybe 10-20lbs overweight and will tell you the same. Maybe he looked a bit disheveled (the shirt WAS a little long) but certainly not full-on slovenly! We normally are expected to look business casual or better at our school...the norm. Back to the story: One of our department heads is a very pleasant Korean man who speaks perfect English. As we were walking down an empty hallway, he stopped us and said to my colleague, "Jim (fake name to hide the innocent), you look like you just walked out of a who#ehouse." At first, I thought he was joking. He wasn't. He went on to give a full on lecture of how professionals should tuck in their shirts and that even lightly wrinkled clothing was unacceptable. He said that it is unprofessional to dress in a shirt and tie one day, and show up for work the next in an untucked golf shirt. I stood dumbfounded. Needless to say, Jim will not be wearing his golf shirts anymore, and if he does, you can bet they will be tucked! |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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"How do you know what a person looks like after they walk out of a w---house?", Jim replies  |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:35 am Post subject: |
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�yeah, just met your (close relative).� jim replies winking.  |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:04 am Post subject: |
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Good manager |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Jim: "Good, respectable, professional companies pay the tax office and don't cheat their employees and have managers that speak to their employees respectfully. This isn't the New York stock exchange where one can should have to take and give verbal abuse as par for the course. This an educational institute and you should behave as such. Sure, I didn't tuck my shirt in. Just ask me to do so in a PC kind of way where you aren't offending me. And do you know what you look like? You look like someone that has opened Pandora's Box. Now get out of my face. I'll tuck my shirt in. If you want to apologize, I'm right here. If not, don't speak to me again."
That would be my response. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Like he's gonna care if you were offended.
I'm not saying I agree with what was done, just that you are not going to find many bosses in Korea who will treat you with any kind of respect.
If you do, hang on to that job! |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:31 am Post subject: |
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lithium

Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: |
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WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
Jim: "Good, respectable, professional companies pay the tax office and don't cheat their employees and have managers that speak to their employees respectfully. This isn't the New York stock exchange where one can should have to take and give verbal abuse as par for the course. This an educational institute and you should behave as such. Sure, I didn't tuck my shirt in. Just ask me to do so in a PC kind of way where you aren't offending me. And do you know what you look like? You look like someone that has opened Pandora's Box. Now get out of my face. I'll tuck my shirt in. If you want to apologize, I'm right here. If not, don't speak to me again."
That would be my response. |
My response to you: You're fired. You obviously have never had a job beyond the confines of this fairyland experience. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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lithium wrote: |
WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
Jim: "Good, respectable, professional companies pay the tax office and don't cheat their employees and have managers that speak to their employees respectfully. This isn't the New York stock exchange where one can should have to take and give verbal abuse as par for the course. This an educational institute and you should behave as such. Sure, I didn't tuck my shirt in. Just ask me to do so in a PC kind of way where you aren't offending me. And do you know what you look like? You look like someone that has opened Pandora's Box. Now get out of my face. I'll tuck my shirt in. If you want to apologize, I'm right here. If not, don't speak to me again."
That would be my response. |
My response to you: You're fired. You obviously have never had a job beyond the confines of this fairyland experience. |
No doubt. Time for Jim to lose some mass and tuck in his tent. Why do guys try to hide the barley distention with hanging cloth anyways? |
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Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: here
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Carbon wrote: |
No doubt. Time for Jim to lose some mass and tuck in his tent. Why do guys try to hide the barley distention with hanging cloth anyways? |
Haha...good one...barley distention...  |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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There are special shirts for golf?!? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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FMPJ wrote: |
There are special shirts for golf?!? |
yeah, in korea there are special clothes for golf, tennis, soccer, baseball, hiking, fishing, biking, cycling, cooking, swimming, etc. etc.
you'd know if you ever been hiking in korea. uniformity is a must in korea.  |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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lithium wrote: |
WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
Jim: "Good, respectable, professional companies pay the tax office and don't cheat their employees and have managers that speak to their employees respectfully. This isn't the New York stock exchange where one can should have to take and give verbal abuse as par for the course. This an educational institute and you should behave as such. Sure, I didn't tuck my shirt in. Just ask me to do so in a PC kind of way where you aren't offending me. And do you know what you look like? You look like someone that has opened Pandora's Box. Now get out of my face. I'll tuck my shirt in. If you want to apologize, I'm right here. If not, don't speak to me again."
That would be my response. |
My response to you: You're fired. You obviously have never had a job beyond the confines of this fairyland experience. |
And my response to you? Fine, see ya later. And you know nothing about me exept this:
My first job in Korea, I wore my shirt untucked every day. And I wore my shorts and sneakers in the summer. I had that job for three full years. If my boss was out of line, I gave him crap. Although, if he said I looked like I just came out of a brothel, I'd probably laugh. It would've depended on how I felt that day.
Where I work now, I wear my shirt untucked and I got a raise and make more money than anyone, including my boss. And if he happens to wear a shirt and a tie to work, I ask him "Why are you wearing a tie?" |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
lithium wrote: |
WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
Jim: "Good, respectable, professional companies pay the tax office and don't cheat their employees and have managers that speak to their employees respectfully. This isn't the New York stock exchange where one can should have to take and give verbal abuse as par for the course. This an educational institute and you should behave as such. Sure, I didn't tuck my shirt in. Just ask me to do so in a PC kind of way where you aren't offending me. And do you know what you look like? You look like someone that has opened Pandora's Box. Now get out of my face. I'll tuck my shirt in. If you want to apologize, I'm right here. If not, don't speak to me again."
That would be my response. |
My response to you: You're fired. You obviously have never had a job beyond the confines of this fairyland experience. |
And my response to you? Fine, see ya later. And you know nothing about me exept this:
My first job in Korea, I wore my shirt untucked every day. And I wore my shorts and sneakers in the summer. I had that job for three full years. If my boss was out of line, I gave him crap. Although, if he said I looked like I just came out of a brothel, I'd probably laugh. It would've depended on how I felt that day.
Where I work now, I wear my shirt untucked and I got a raise and make more money than anyone, including my boss. And if he happens to wear a shirt and a tie to work, I ask him "Why are you wearing a tie?" |
You are really cool! Can I be like you and untuck my shirt, and have all this wealth and prosperity fall into MY lap, too?
Honestly, if you make more money than your boss, then the place you work is very poorly run.
The original comment about the shirt was rude (aka "the brothel comment"). If the issue had been mentioned just a bit more politely, it would have been a non-issue. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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my ps contract says i just have to dress like a korean. Why dont guys where shorts here? |
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