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One Year Out From Applying: Advice? Chances?
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Modernist



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My numbers now are borderline bottom t14 worthy (I don't want to out-self but LSAT 170-172, GPA in the mid-3s) but I have a strong desire to attend Northwestern - which looks for a few years of work experience. Failing admission there, I'd happily take the offer from the best school I get into


Ah, yet more of 'well, all those bad things that are happening to everyone else have NO RELEVANCE AT ALL to me because I'm much too smart. And I've done research!'

Korea is littered with miserable people who thought they were too smart to listen to anyone's advice. There are even more of those people at law schools. I was a person like that once.

Did you listen to what Telly said? Not just T14, IF you can get in, T14 plus top % of graduating class. Northwestern is absurdly expensive and getting an offer to be a public defender or do legal outsourcing at 60K a year will put you in debt forever. mid-3 GPA won't get you any scholarships at NWLS either. And a lower-level school just makes the job hunt worse.

Legal economy recovering? Really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/business/03reverse.html

Look, if you want to do it anyway, I'm not here to stop you or argue with you. I'm trying to help you. And this is no law school forum. But can you answer the question 'why do you want to go to law school?' with anything besides 'because I scored over 170 on the LSAT'?

Read these articles. Are you so sure you could never end up like them?

http://www.slate.com/id/2272621
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?_r=1
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Joined: 11 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
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My numbers now are borderline bottom t14 worthy (I don't want to out-self but LSAT 170-172, GPA in the mid-3s) but I have a strong desire to attend Northwestern - which looks for a few years of work experience. Failing admission there, I'd happily take the offer from the best school I get into


Ah, yet more of 'well, all those bad things that are happening to everyone else have NO RELEVANCE AT ALL to me because I'm much too smart. And I've done research!'

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Did you listen to what Telly said? Not just T14, IF you can get in, T14 plus top % of graduating class. Northwestern is absurdly expensive and getting an offer to be a public defender or do legal outsourcing at 60K a year will put you in debt forever. mid-3 GPA won't get you any scholarships at NWLS either. And a lower-level school just makes the job hunt worse.

Legal economy recovering? Really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/business/03reverse.html

Look, if you want to do it anyway, I'm not here to stop you or argue with you. I'm trying to help you. And this is no law school forum. But can you answer the question 'why do you want to go to law school?' with anything besides 'because I scored over 170 on the LSAT'?

Read these articles. Are you so sure you could never end up like them?

http://www.slate.com/id/2272621
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?_r=1


I understand that NU is expensive, as are all law schools. However (since I'm 70% sure this is what I *want* to do), I will take the risk by attending a school with high V100/NLJ250 + clerkship hiring stats and, if I strike out at OCI, will resign myself to a fall back option and do what the great majority of law students do: make calls, send out resumes en-masse, curse the OCS, etc.. I understand the risks. Of course, no school guarantees a job upon graduation (ok, basically besides medical school). Anyway, yes, I do believe the legal market is recovering. Summer associate class sizes are increasing as are offer-rates. This is indisputable. Like I said, I understand the risk. I know law school is not a magic ticket to a career; you have to work harder than ever before.

I appreciate the warning. More students would be better served having heard it. Don't even get me started on the number of ABA accredited schools, either. :-p
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