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What has Kim Jong-Il created?
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Chanoong



Joined: 07 Sep 2010
Location: Chungju South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
I'm all for helping North Korean refugees, but is trying to convert them to Christianity really the best course of action?


This.

Kind of like how the Christian missionaries helped convert so many Koreans by setting up schools as alternatives to the Japanese schools during the annexation period.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stout wrote:


In December 1945, Korea was administered by a US�USSR Joint Commission, as agreed at the Moscow Conference (1945). The Koreans were excluded from the talks.


The allies naively felt obligated to allow the Soviets to occupy the Northern part of Korea. The allied intention was that both Americans and Russians would depart and Korea would have free elections. There was never any intent by the allies that Korea should remain divided.

Also to point out the character differences between the American goverment and the Soviets (Stalin). Sigman Rhee wanted weapons to invade the north and the US refused. Stalin did not refuse Kim Il Sung's request for weapons. The US is not the villian in the partitioning of Korea. I think that the American partitioners suspected the Soviets might not comply with what was agreed upon and they drew the line to at least keep Seoul.

Another thing too, why is it that the Russians refuse to return the northernmost island of Japan to the japanese? Notice how the US never intended to keep Okinawa and returned it in 1975?
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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The allies naively felt obligated to allow the Soviets to occupy the Northern part of Korea.


Yes, after they had 'naively' decided with other Allies to divide the peninsula to begin with.

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The US is not the villian in the partitioning of Korea.


Yes, they did not neglect to evacuate Japanese officials and dismiss pro-Japanese collaborators, thereby turning over power to the South Korean people rather than insert a dictator puppet who led the coalition of elite pro-Japanese collaborators, which as we know let to the prompt reunification of the peninsula.

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Notice how the US never intended to keep Okinawa and returned it in 1975?


In contrast, the West understands that such US operations are all undertaken to defend stability and its own security. The liberal New Republic expresses its concern that "China sent ten warships through international waters just off the Japanese island of Okinawa." That is indeed a provocation - unlike the fact, unmentioned, that Washington has converted the island into a major military base in defiance of vehement protests by the people of Okinawa. That is not a provocation, on the standard principle that we own the world.

-Oldspeak Journal, Aprill 25, 2011
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Jeonmunka



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try NK Social Research Centre or NKDB.org
They might have info about you volunteering.
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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the local community college in your hometown. They may have a course in Critical Thinking 101.
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1984



Joined: 08 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: What has Kim Jong-Il created? Reply with quote

john152 wrote:
Imagine a society where you can�t trust your brother or sister. Where lying becomes so ingrained in you that you can�t stop yourself from doing it. It is an alternate world and when North Korean Refugees come to South Korea they often can�t handle the outside world. For more information about their situation and how to help North Korean Refugees please go to http://www.busanchristian.com/2011/06/most-broken-people.html

The website also list information about a North Korean human rights event happening in Jinju on June 25th.

Have you ever met a North Korean or volunteered to help them? Do you know of any organization which helps refugees in South Korea?


He has a strong list of inventions under his rule that include:

Nuclear Energy
The Atom Bomb
The Cuban Cigar
Prostitution
The Internet
X-Ray
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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are just another blabbering armchair idiot bent on complaining about whatever you can think of. You are the same type of person who would have been crying and complaining that the war should stop if the allies had gone ahead and fought more.

People like you are never happy.


Back from New York, very cool place and people thank you Very Happy

American policy was never/is never to hold territory outside the US, but to build up 'satilite states' that can take the heat in a war. Russia? Not so much.
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KRTV



Joined: 01 Jun 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chanoong wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
I'm all for helping North Korean refugees, but is trying to convert them to Christianity really the best course of action?


This.

Kind of like how the Christian missionaries helped convert so many Koreans by setting up schools as alternatives to the Japanese schools during the annexation period.


Any help is better than living north of the DMZ.
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KRTV



Joined: 01 Jun 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chanoong wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
I'm all for helping North Korean refugees, but is trying to convert them to Christianity really the best course of action?


This.

Kind of like how the Christian missionaries helped convert so many Koreans by setting up schools as alternatives to the Japanese schools during the annexation period.


Any help is better than living north of the DMZ.
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