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minos
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 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:41 am Post subject: First Graders: How to deal? |
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I have limited experience with this little guys. Unfortunately it's my weakest area and I'm getting negative evals because of these pint sized monsters.
Discipline is decent with girls, but a nightmare with the boys.
My limited Korean isn't really upto the task and we mainly teach phonics and basic stories.
Hagwon style class: 6-10 students.
I think I need to up the amount of games, stickers, and candy to make it "fun again(I used to do this more)". However the discipline problem remains. |
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SeoulNate
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: |
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What are your discipline options?
With the little ones a system with their names on the board where they get stars for good behavior and Xs for bad behavior works pretty well. If they rack up five stars they get a candy and three Xs gets them sent to the desk or head teacher and five Xs gets a call home during class. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulNate wrote: |
What are your discipline options?
With the little ones a system with their names on the board where they get stars for good behavior and Xs for bad behavior works pretty well. If they rack up five stars they get a candy and three Xs gets them sent to the desk or head teacher and five Xs gets a call home during class. |
Problem is, the ones who do get five xs don't give a rat's ass about participating in my rewards system. Calls to parents have been ineffective. One ripped out his rewards chart in protest and hasn't used it since.
These bad 2-3 give me 95% of my headaches. Recently 2 new ones came and their bat ***** insane....jumping on the tables by the second class. They're causing the other boys to go from bad to insane. |
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nero
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, you shouldn't need to speak Korean at all. Instigate a Korean free environment. Stick with it. Don't attempt to communicate with them in Korean.
At the beginning of every class go over two rules. English only, no speaking when someone else is speaking. Refer to these rules when you need to.
Have a seating arrangement.
Have consistent reward and punishment system that you stick to so they know the consequences of their actions. |
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Warhammer820
Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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You really should not reward behaviors with candy
| SeoulNate wrote: |
What are your discipline options?
With the little ones a system with their names on the board where they get stars for good behavior and Xs for bad behavior works pretty well. If they rack up five stars they get a candy and three Xs gets them sent to the desk or head teacher and five Xs gets a call home during class. |
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SeoulNate
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
You really should not reward behaviors with candy
| SeoulNate wrote: |
What are your discipline options?
With the little ones a system with their names on the board where they get stars for good behavior and Xs for bad behavior works pretty well. If they rack up five stars they get a candy and three Xs gets them sent to the desk or head teacher and five Xs gets a call home during class. |
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It works. I havent seen any negatives in 7 years of teaching. Hell, I used to do it teaching high school in the states. |
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Warhammer820
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
You really should not reward behaviors with candy
| SeoulNate wrote: |
What are your discipline options?
With the little ones a system with their names on the board where they get stars for good behavior and Xs for bad behavior works pretty well. If they rack up five stars they get a candy and three Xs gets them sent to the desk or head teacher and five Xs gets a call home during class. |
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It works. I havent seen any negatives in 7 years of teaching. Hell, I used to do it teaching high school in the states. |
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SeoulNate
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, you shouldn't need to speak Korean at all. Instigate a Korean free environment. Stick with it. Don't attempt to communicate with them in Korean.
At the beginning of every class go over two rules. English only, no speaking when someone else is speaking. Refer to these rules when you need to.
Have a seating arrangement.
Have consistent reward and punishment system that you stick to so they know the consequences of their actions. |
I said first graders, not fifth.
English near zero aside from abut 40-100 words. No grammar skills whatever.
I'm going to make a rule sheet and go over it every class. Sounds like a good Idea. |
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Warhammer820
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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http://www.wtvq.com/health/5638-diet-and-emotions
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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SeoulNate
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
Firstly, you shouldn't need to speak Korean at all. Instigate a Korean free environment. Stick with it. Don't attempt to communicate with them in Korean.
At the beginning of every class go over two rules. English only, no speaking when someone else is speaking. Refer to these rules when you need to.
Have a seating arrangement.
Have consistent reward and punishment system that you stick to so they know the consequences of their actions. |
I said first graders, not fifth.
English near zero aside from abut 40-100 words. No grammar skills whatever.
I'm going to make a rule sheet and go over it every class. Sounds like a good Idea. |
Doesnt matter what level they are. English only policies work well for the students and learning, you just have to be strict with it.
At first you are only going to get one word answers for everything and you will need to listen, give them the proper (short) sentence with correct grammar and have them repeat it back to you. It really doesnt take too long for basic communication to develop. Being strict is the key. |
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SeoulNate
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
http://www.wtvq.com/health/5638-diet-and-emotions
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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Decent read, video is down atm. From the reference page, a lot of that is speculation though. |
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Warhammer820
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Actually you are correct, it is speculation. I know that it affected me because i still reward myself with candy. I used to weigh 185 lbs, i found the desire to try to break this habit. I was not able to lose the habit, but i did reduce it and i lost 40 lbs.
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
http://www.wtvq.com/health/5638-diet-and-emotions
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| Warhammer820 wrote: |
The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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Decent read, video is down atm. From the reference page, a lot of that is speculation though. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulNate wrote: |
| minos wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
Firstly, you shouldn't need to speak Korean at all. Instigate a Korean free environment. Stick with it. Don't attempt to communicate with them in Korean.
At the beginning of every class go over two rules. English only, no speaking when someone else is speaking. Refer to these rules when you need to.
Have a seating arrangement.
Have consistent reward and punishment system that you stick to so they know the consequences of their actions. |
I said first graders, not fifth.
English near zero aside from abut 40-100 words. No grammar skills whatever.
I'm going to make a rule sheet and go over it every class. Sounds like a good Idea. |
Doesnt matter what level they are. English only policies work well for the students and learning, you just have to be strict with it.
At first you are only going to get one word answers for everything and you will need to listen, give them the proper (short) sentence with correct grammar and have them repeat it back to you. It really doesnt take too long for basic communication to develop. Being strict is the key. |
Okay, let me be a wee bit more clear.
I'm in an after school program. If numbers drop, the company gets pissed and comes after me. 95% of the students who would benefit from such a plan aren't quitting. It's usually the bored ones, the really behind ones, immature, etc. who don't need a class difficulty boost. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
Firstly, you shouldn't need to speak Korean at all. Instigate a Korean free environment. Stick with it. Don't attempt to communicate with them in Korean.
At the beginning of every class go over two rules. English only, no speaking when someone else is speaking. Refer to these rules when you need to.
Have a seating arrangement.
Have consistent reward and punishment system that you stick to so they know the consequences of their actions. |
I said first graders, not fifth.
English near zero aside from abut 40-100 words. No grammar skills whatever.
I'm going to make a rule sheet and go over it every class. Sounds like a good Idea. |
I teach Korean six year olds and don't allow any Korean in my class. I don't even let my co-teacher speak to the kids in Korean when it's English time. The age is really irrelevant. |
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