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murmanjake

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Depending on the circumstances, rowdy boys can be dealt with physically. Don't beat them. Just put them in place. Grab the worst offender by the arm and take them out of class. Close the door and talk to the kid in person. Get a co-teacher to help. Shame them enough so that they look penitent and a bit sheepish when you walk them back in. The others will learn quickly enough.
Don't give them candy. |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:41 am Post subject: |
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In my experience candy is a good short term reward, but extended too long it creates an expectation that whatever they do will be rewarded with candy. You also pass this expectation onto the next teacher, may not be good depending on the teacher.
I think it's alright but I don't think I will do it again.
Usually I can handle boys very well, it's the girls I have the problems with. I think the thing is I usually dish out more punishment than pleasure. I use disapproval and negative connotations to get kids to stop bad behavior.
For example if a student pouts I'll stare at him, stop the class, wait for him to finish, give him a stern look, shake my head in disaproval and tell him something like "that behavior is very childish, like kindegarten, I expect better from you _______, please act like a a man/lady.
This works great with boys who crave approval and discipline. But I don't get along with all girls (the manipulative ones). They seem to hate punishment and are spoiled by parents to avoid any type of structured discipline.
Anyways, you'd be suprised how much words can administer discipline, you don't need to beat your kids or take away candy, but you need to dispense pain for the bad, and pleasure for the good.
Also, it doesn't always have to be candy, approval is a strong motivating force. This is how you gain authority.
Best of luck. |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Actually you are correct, it is speculation. I know that it affected me because i still reward myself with candy. I used to weigh 185 lbs, i found the desire to try to break this habit. I was not able to lose the habit, but i did reduce it and i lost 40 lbs.
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http://www.wtvq.com/health/5638-diet-and-emotions
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The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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Decent read, video is down atm. From the reference page, a lot of that is speculation though. |
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Just having a little fun here:
From your handle I am assuming you are male, as I havent met too many chicks into warhammer, and that makes me question why you would want to weigh 145 lbs... unless I am reading that incorrectly. |
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Warhammer820
Joined: 03 Jun 2011 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Well yes i am a male, but this has been my screen name since i was about 10 years old. I got is from my brother and it was easy to remember. Now, i have just kept it all these years and used it for several websites. Anytime you see Warhammer820 on anything, it's me.
Yes i am a couple pounds above 145, but i am happy at this weight. I am 5'8 so i am not as skinny as i sound. I go to the gym 3-5 times a week to exercise and i was going to pass this on to the kids of america. I am a Physical Education Major, but things have changed and now my new goal is to teach in Korea when i graduate in May 2012.
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Actually you are correct, it is speculation. I know that it affected me because i still reward myself with candy. I used to weigh 185 lbs, i found the desire to try to break this habit. I was not able to lose the habit, but i did reduce it and i lost 40 lbs.
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
http://www.wtvq.com/health/5638-diet-and-emotions
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
The reason i say that is because it leads some to bad habits of rewarding themselves in the future for a good action with candy. This can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle (obesity).
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love to see a study on that :p |
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Decent read, video is down atm. From the reference page, a lot of that is speculation though. |
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Just having a little fun here:
From your handle I am assuming you are male, as I havent met too many chicks into warhammer, and that makes me question why you would want to weigh 145 lbs... unless I am reading that incorrectly. |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Back on topic, I would still argue that candy works, but you have to use it correctly.
1. Dont hand it out willy nilly, you have a system in place for a reason
2. Dont one-up yourself and start giving pizza parties every other tuesday
3. If kids whine about it, remind them how childish they are being and that next time they should think about their behavior before acting like a fool.
My main reason behind using candy is because it is a short term goal that students can process easily. For example, I am sure that many of you work at a school that gives out rewards for continued good behavior over a month or term. For many young learners, that time period is just too long and they cant really work toward that goal (or at least the ones who you are trying to target for improving their behavior will not be able to). |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I taught kindy using the no Korean rule.
No candy, but a sticker reward system.
You need to break up the activities so you spend a little bit of time learning vocab etc then a 5 - 10 minute fun activity practicing it. Kids see the activity as a game but they are actually learning. It also gets them out of their seats. Change the activities every ten minutes or so
At the beginning of each semester I would spend a class going over English rules. Even my retarded kindergartoners knew "stop that' 'no!' 'Come here' 'good' 'bad' etc.
Kids pick things up quickly. |
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