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Zanniati



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

August is possible but not likely. You would need to really rush. I recommend not worrying so much about your timing. Really, you may have to look for a few weeks to find a good job worth taking. Don't just take the first thing offered to you.

Though this has already been mentioned, here's what you need:
Start the CBC process. Send your money and info to the FBI asap.
Get a bunch of passport photos.
Find a notary near you.
Get a copy of your diploma.
Get a SEALED OFFICIAL transcript from your school.
Know the apostille process and requirements for your state.
Know the requirements for an E-2 VISA for your consulate SPECIFICALLY.

I think that's all you need for paperwork... I could be wrong though and if I am someone will probably correct me.

Then, while you're getting all this ready, figure out if you want to go public or private, where you want to teach, what ages you want to teach, how much you want to get paid, how many hours you want to work. These are all things you need to know before you even talk to recruiters.

That's my starting advice. Good luck.

EDIT: Just to give you an idea of how long it MIGHT take. I started the process in February and I flew out for my job at the end of April. My CBC took 5 weeks, apostille took about a week, job hunt took about a week and a half, and VISA took 2 weeks from when I sent everything to Korea to get my code then less than a week at the consulate once I received my VISA code. I flew out the day after I got my passport back from the consulate. I think this is pretty uncommon though. My job just needed me ASAP.
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Speedling



Joined: 08 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulNate wrote:
Speedling wrote:
litebear wrote:
Gringo17 wrote:
Hey thanks for the advice, the only reason I'm it sounds like I'm in a hurry is because I am under the impression that a lot of school positions begin in the July August months, but maybe this isn't the case? I'm planning on getting fingerprinted today and send off the rest of the documents to get my background check ASAP. Is it possible to get a position without a visa at first and then get the E2 while you are over there?


No. Absolutely not.

Look man, relax. There will be good jobs available throughout the year. Just work on getting your docs together. After that start hitting up recruiters with a resume and professional photo letting them know you have all your docs ready and are ready to leave ASAP. Choose a position that suits you and off you go!


Hate to disagree but,

Several employers asked me if I would be willing to come on a tourist visa, start work, then when my visa was processed, switch to a E-2 by going to Japan for a Visa run.

Of course, that meant, I would be working illegally. It also meant those employers were willing to bend the rules (break the law) to suit their needs.

So I think its something that could be arranged. But I would strongly advise against it. Teaching illegally means there is no re-course if your employer stiffs you on pay, or otherwise try to screw you over. Plus, you'd be breaking the law yourself, something that could be used against you, even down the road.

Get started now! I am Canadian, I started getting my documents together in the middle of May, and am rushing through the visa process right now, my employer/recruiter are still optimistic that I'll be in country by June 25'th.

Anythings possible!

Good luck!


Bad information.

If you have never obtained an E-2 visa before, you will be forced to return home to your own country to have an interview at the consulate in almost every case. Sure, it is possible to return to your home country, but you can't do it over a weekend because the offices are not open (not to mention the time lost in transit) and you would probably be paying out of your own pocket for a 1200$ round trip ticket.


Maybe that's true in most cases

I certainly didn't have to go to the consulate for an interview... Was all done through the mail (well UPS since Canada post was threatening to strike at the time) You guys are all such doubters.

Anyways just sharing my experience! Believe me I'm not making this up...

Cheers
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedling wrote:
SeoulNate wrote:
Speedling wrote:
litebear wrote:
Gringo17 wrote:
Hey thanks for the advice, the only reason I'm it sounds like I'm in a hurry is because I am under the impression that a lot of school positions begin in the July August months, but maybe this isn't the case? I'm planning on getting fingerprinted today and send off the rest of the documents to get my background check ASAP. Is it possible to get a position without a visa at first and then get the E2 while you are over there?


No. Absolutely not.

Look man, relax. There will be good jobs available throughout the year. Just work on getting your docs together. After that start hitting up recruiters with a resume and professional photo letting them know you have all your docs ready and are ready to leave ASAP. Choose a position that suits you and off you go!


Hate to disagree but,

Several employers asked me if I would be willing to come on a tourist visa, start work, then when my visa was processed, switch to a E-2 by going to Japan for a Visa run.

Of course, that meant, I would be working illegally. It also meant those employers were willing to bend the rules (break the law) to suit their needs.

So I think its something that could be arranged. But I would strongly advise against it. Teaching illegally means there is no re-course if your employer stiffs you on pay, or otherwise try to screw you over. Plus, you'd be breaking the law yourself, something that could be used against you, even down the road.

Get started now! I am Canadian, I started getting my documents together in the middle of May, and am rushing through the visa process right now, my employer/recruiter are still optimistic that I'll be in country by June 25'th.

Anythings possible!

Good luck!


Bad information.

If you have never obtained an E-2 visa before, you will be forced to return home to your own country to have an interview at the consulate in almost every case. Sure, it is possible to return to your home country, but you can't do it over a weekend because the offices are not open (not to mention the time lost in transit) and you would probably be paying out of your own pocket for a 1200$ round trip ticket.


Maybe that's true in most cases

I certainly didn't have to go to the consulate for an interview... Was all done through the mail (well UPS since Canada post was threatening to strike at the time) You guys are all such doubters.

Anyways just sharing my experience! Believe me I'm not making this up...

Cheers


Sorry, run that past me again. Which country were you in when you got your visa? Was it Korea?
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Speedling



Joined: 08 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

litebear wrote:
Speedling wrote:
SeoulNate wrote:
Speedling wrote:
litebear wrote:
Gringo17 wrote:
Hey thanks for the advice, the only reason I'm it sounds like I'm in a hurry is because I am under the impression that a lot of school positions begin in the July August months, but maybe this isn't the case? I'm planning on getting fingerprinted today and send off the rest of the documents to get my background check ASAP. Is it possible to get a position without a visa at first and then get the E2 while you are over there?


No. Absolutely not.

Look man, relax. There will be good jobs available throughout the year. Just work on getting your docs together. After that start hitting up recruiters with a resume and professional photo letting them know you have all your docs ready and are ready to leave ASAP. Choose a position that suits you and off you go!


Hate to disagree but,

Several employers asked me if I would be willing to come on a tourist visa, start work, then when my visa was processed, switch to a E-2 by going to Japan for a Visa run.

Of course, that meant, I would be working illegally. It also meant those employers were willing to bend the rules (break the law) to suit their needs.

So I think its something that could be arranged. But I would strongly advise against it. Teaching illegally means there is no re-course if your employer stiffs you on pay, or otherwise try to screw you over. Plus, you'd be breaking the law yourself, something that could be used against you, even down the road.

Get started now! I am Canadian, I started getting my documents together in the middle of May, and am rushing through the visa process right now, my employer/recruiter are still optimistic that I'll be in country by June 25'th.

Anythings possible!

Good luck!


Bad information.

If you have never obtained an E-2 visa before, you will be forced to return home to your own country to have an interview at the consulate in almost every case. Sure, it is possible to return to your home country, but you can't do it over a weekend because the offices are not open (not to mention the time lost in transit) and you would probably be paying out of your own pocket for a 1200$ round trip ticket.


Maybe that's true in most cases

I certainly didn't have to go to the consulate for an interview... Was all done through the mail (well UPS since Canada post was threatening to strike at the time) You guys are all such doubters.

Anyways just sharing my experience! Believe me I'm not making this up...

Cheers


Sorry, run that past me again. Which country were you in when you got your visa? Was it Korea?



I was, and am still, in Canada. I will be in Korea in about 10 days.

There was no meeting required. However, I'm sure that's not the case for everyone. When I heard of the in person meeting I asked my recruiter and she just laughed and said I wouldn't need to worry about that, and I never did. I do live quite far from the nearest consulate, so maybe that worked in my favor.

And, All I was saying is it might be possible to come to Korea on a tourist visa while you wait for your E2 to process, but its not a good idea. All that is definitely true. And if its not true in some cases (was for me) I accept that too!

Why does everything have to be a debate with you guys?

Cheers

Edit: Just to be perfectly clear, what was purposed to me was this; I would send my notarized diploma, CBC, passport copies, etc to the Korean Consulate in Montreal. Then leave for Korea and arrive on a tourist visa. I'd have a relative here send my documents to the school when they arrived back, they'd process my visa and I'd get my confirmation number. Then I'd send my passport and the paperwork to the Consulate to get stamped or whatever it is they do, get someone to send it back to me, then I would go to Japan on a visa run paid for by the Hagwon and re-enter on my E-2. I was not OK with this though.

Any more questions?
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedling wrote:
litebear wrote:


Sorry, run that past me again. Which country were you in when you got your visa? Was it Korea?



I was, and am still, in Canada
.


So you weren't in Korea, you were in Canada. Thanks.

To the OP, there has been a lot of rubbish written in this thread, sorry if it got off topic.
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Speedling



Joined: 08 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

litebear wrote:
Speedling wrote:
litebear wrote:


Sorry, run that past me again. Which country were you in when you got your visa? Was it Korea?



I was, and am still, in Canada
.


So you weren't in Korea, you were in Canada. Thanks.

To the OP, there has been a lot of rubbish written in this thread, sorry if it got off topic.


I was very clear about that.

Your very combative. I'm sure if we ever met, we wouldn't get along.

This has all been very on topic. The OP could very well get similar offers to mine! I didn't accept for the reasons stated. The OP sounds like he would be interested, just explaining why its not a good idea.

Your attitude is rubbish.

Ignoring you now

Cheers
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Gringo17



Joined: 13 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info guys, especially to bbud656 for info about when the school year starts, that makes me feel much more comfortable about taking an extra month and waiting till late august or september to start a contract.

Also, thanks to Zanniati for laying it out the paperwork clearly (I'm sure this list has been written a million times before so thanks for the patience).
CBC was mailed by fedex an hour ago, I already have a passport, I have my original copy of my diploma with me so I guess I just have to find a notary, get my school transcript and look up the apostille stuff for Illinois. The E-2 visa requirements are different depending on the consulate? Shouldn't the visa requirements be dependent on just the country i'm going to (south korea)?

Oh and although I don't live in Canada nor am I planning on working illegally, I appreciate litebear/speedling keeping my question at the top of message boards Smile Hopefully my thread doesn't continue to be a polarizing issue.

Thanks for all the useful info!
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Speedling



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hah!

You are very welcome!

Good luck!
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Zanniati



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gringo17 wrote:
The E-2 visa requirements are different depending on the consulate? Shouldn't the visa requirements be dependent on just the country i'm going to (south korea)?


You would think so but I felt like my experience at my consulate was different than others that I had read about. I would call them just to be safe.
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is an apostille?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer820 wrote:
what is an apostille?


Document legalization for documents intended for international use from your state's secretary of state.

In the case of the FBI check, the national Sec. Of State.

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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Illinois, you've got to mail the diploma to the Secretary of State's office in Springfield. Takes maybe 2 weeks. Pretty cool looking Apostille, though.

Lucky for you the Chicago Consulate is very good to work with. I dropped off my passprt and had my visa in 4 days. No interview. They don't even ask to keep the Notice of Appointment [if you get one]. Best to come back and pick it up in person if you can.
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Gringo17



Joined: 13 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I called the Korean consulate in Chicago and they basically told me they didn't really have a clue as to what I needed to get a E-2 work visa and that I should get that info from my employer. Once I get a sponsor then they can help me. As for the apostille process, I had one recruiter tell me that I needed to get a 2 copies of my diploma apostilled and I believe I also need my CBC (once it get back) apostilled. Is there anything else? (University transcripts? etc?) Thanks again for all the wonderful help. I feel much less bewildered and intimidated since joining the forum.
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WillTurnerinVanCity



Joined: 05 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Process in a Nutshell Reply with quote

http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/visa-information-to-teach-in-korea/949-korean-public-school-applicationvisa-documents
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