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[ddeubel]

Hi everyone,

A lot of members here have responded positively about using EnglishCentral.

We are busy updating the teacher tools and refining lots of things for the benefit of teachers. Part of this is getting some feedback from teachers using EnglishCentral. (and note EnglishCentral now has Korean language site support and translated subtitles available if needed).

If you use it or have used it, we have a survey that we'd appreciate you filling out. (takes only a few minutes). You'll get a nice multi media coursebook of famous speeches in return). http://bit.ly/j53s7t

Any questions, shoot away here and I'll reply.

thanks in advance,

DD

[lifeinkorea]

It's a useless site. Why all the spam from them? I get it in email, and after requesting to be removed I was informed that I wouldn't be removed but yesterday they promised no more spam. Every week I see you posting about them.

It's all well and good, if you like EnglishCentral, GO THERE!!! You don't need to clutter Dave's ESL with their stuff. Make one thread if you really have to and update it. You don't need to keep starting a new one. Moderators, am I right? I am sorry if you think I am wrong, I am just surprised at the constant postings about this site.

Is Dave's getting some payoff I don't know about?

[ddeubel]

Lifeinkorea,

I'm sorry the world doesn't work the way you think it should.

You can Unsubscribe from any email. There is a big button on all the emails, in the right corner. Just click that and you won't get any more emails.

I'll also state, I'm sharing. That's what I do.

DD

[Rocktek]

I don't get it, Is EnglishCentral your site Ddeubel?

I have to agree with Lifeinkorea, only because the voice recognition component isn't that good. I've tested it with multiple students, and honestly, the scoring seems random. I think it's a great idea in theory, but practical application is useless with a broken speech recocognition engine.

It's not much better now than it was in beta last year, and there are so many other subtitled forms of multi-media availble for free, I don't see why anyone would pay a subscription fee for the limited number of pretty poor clips they have.

Did I mention, the speech recognition engine is horrible?

[secret elated leaf]

I have not looked at English Central, but I have dealt with the op through his website�EFL Classroom 2.0 (http://community.eflclassroom.com/).
When people have spent thousands of hours developing materials and interactive learning environments for teachers and students to use free of charge they may have a platform from which to criticize. If they haven�t made this type of effort perhaps they could give this guy a break?

[ddeubel]

SEL,

Thanks for the support.

Rocktek,

Here's a link where the founder talks about EnglishCentral in depth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5s3KCaDa34

It will have some information of interest to you about what is and isn't speechrecognition (something I've been involved in for years and which Alan has more than a lot of experience as a top exec with Nuance (of Dragon Naturally Speaking). ).

But EnglishCentral is a "video corpus" and soon teachers can drill into all the clips and focus on any vocab. word / sound or grammatical feature or function. That's very valuable. Also, every word is clickable and will give pronunciation and definition. Have you also tried the instant "cloze" feature - Hidden Challenge? Also, lexical based "video" quizzes for each video.

I say all this just to let you be aware that EnglishCentral is much more than just subtitles. Also, an LMS.

I'm working with EnglishCentral because I met/know their staff of scientists/engineers and they "get it". Not my site. The use of corrective feedback in a controlled fashion to benefit student's English language learning. There is a lot to evaluating speech but they are doing a great job. Not trying to replace a teacher ever - but giving both teachers / students more possibility for enabling the learning of language in context.

But I respect you opinion, just don't think it is a full evaluation.

DD
http://eflclassroom.com

[lifeinkorea]

[seoulsteve]