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duke of new york
Joined: 23 Jan 2011
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 Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: Learning Korean grammar |
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| How do you guys learn Korean grammar, such as conjugation, particles, and sentence structure? I can read the alphabet, I can memorize vocabulary and phrases, but when it comes to actually understanding how to put together simple sentences, I don't really know how to practice. I have some books that explain the particles and conjugations and such, but I would really like some worksheets, a workbook, or even an online tool that lets you put these concepts into practice. I can't learn from just reading a book, and my Korean friends aren't very good at teaching their language (I'm not in Korea yet). Anybody have or know of some good supplementary materials for practicing grammar? |
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Koreadays
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Learning Korean grammar |
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| duke of new york wrote: |
| How do you guys learn Korean grammar, such as conjugation, particles, and sentence structure? I can read the alphabet, I can memorize vocabulary and phrases, but when it comes to actually understanding how to put together simple sentences, I don't really know how to practice. I have some books that explain the particles and conjugations and such, but I would really like some worksheets, a workbook, or even an online tool that lets you put these concepts into practice. I can't learn from just reading a book, and my Korean friends aren't very good at teaching their language (I'm not in Korea yet). Anybody have or know of some good supplementary materials for practicing grammar? |
have you tried Rosetta stone?
also why not find the local Korean church in your town and head down there one sunday and make some friends. maybe the pastor will be able to help you with a language exchange . maybe some new koreans in town looking for English help..
worth a shot.. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Learning Korean grammar |
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| duke of new york wrote: |
| How do you guys learn Korean grammar, such as conjugation, particles, and sentence structure? I can read the alphabet, I can memorize vocabulary and phrases, but when it comes to actually understanding how to put together simple sentences, I don't really know how to practice. I have some books that explain the particles and conjugations and such, but I would really like some worksheets, a workbook, or even an online tool that lets you put these concepts into practice. I can't learn from just reading a book, and my Korean friends aren't very good at teaching their language (I'm not in Korea yet). Anybody have or know of some good supplementary materials for practicing grammar? |
Try kleartextbook.com.
It breaks down everything really easily into simple powerpoint slides.
What books are you using by the way? If you're using phrasebooks then you're wasting your time.
There are some decent texts out there. I use the Integrated Korean texts by University of Hawaii press (these are the books the kleartextbook.com uses) because I like how it explains grammar and it introduces a lot of vocabulary. Because that book moves a little slowly, I also use the Yonsei Korean books because I like they use very little English which has helped me pick up Korean vocabulary faster. |
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samd
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furtakk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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talktomeinkorean.com
sogang text book series
seoul university text book series |
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morrisonhotel
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Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd agree with most of the above. I'd also add in two of Yonsei's grammar textbooks: Korean Grammar for International Learners and An Introductory Course in Korean. Both those textbooks are rather dry, but they're very thorough. |
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duke of new york
Joined: 23 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys, but the book I have, Conversational Korean for Beginners, is good enough for explaining the basics. Like I said, I want some kind of workbook that I can use to actually practice, not just read about grammar rules and lists of particles. Just reading a book doesn't let the language sink in. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| duke of new york wrote: |
| Thanks guys, but the book I have, Conversational Korean for Beginners, is good enough for explaining the basics. Like I said, I want some kind of workbook that I can use to actually practice, not just read about grammar rules and lists of particles. Just reading a book doesn't let the language sink in. |
Most of those, if not all of those, have accompanying workbooks to practice. For that alone, I'd suggest a mixture of the Sogang textbooks and workbooks and the SNU textbooks and workbooks. The Sogang books are more aimed at spoken Korean whilst the SNU are more aimed at reading and writing. |
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samd
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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The site I linked to has practice exercises for every grammar point it teaches.
Also, the book morrisonhotel mentioned from Yonsei, Korean Grammar for International Learners, is by far the most comprehensive textbook, and it has a workbook (sold separately) with practice exercises for each grammar point, although admittedly it doesn't have enough, and as mentioned above, the textbook is very dry. |
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HymanKaplan
Joined: 14 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Learning Korean grammar |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
have you tried Rosetta stone? |
Have you tried Rosetta Stone? I've met a lot of people who like Rosetta Stone. I've also met lot of people who've seriously tried to learn a language with Rosetta Stone. I can't say I've yet met one person to whom both statements apply. But even if we leave aside the fact that it's a useless piece of garbage with an excellent marketing team, it doesn't teach grammar.
Personally, I love typing various things into Google. It gets the point across, but it also gets the grammar so hilariously wrong that Koreans have no choice but to correct me. I also bought a ton of children's books. The great thing about those is they're meant for little kids, so structure is relatively simple. Even if I'm sure the people at the bookstore wondered what the hell I was up to. I do a lot of things in Korea that probably make people wonder what's wrong with me.
There's a ton of grammar resources online, none of which I actually use. I believe that as a trained linguist I can figure out the grammar from passages of text. I may be wrong of course, and it's certainly not something most people would try.
I've been here six months and still mostly communicate in single words and gestures, so I may not be an expert on this.
~HK |
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Elle
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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http://www.learnkorean.com/lesson/kclassindex.asp
^ Another link, I find this to helpful when I have to brush up on my Korean. The "Lessons" part has a fairly decent breakdown of the grammar and how to construct sentences together Subject-Object-Verb.
Rosetta Stone is also a fantastic program but if you can't afford it, perhaps you can try perusing all the links?
Hope this helps! |
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some waygug-in
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HymanKaplan
Joined: 14 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Elle wrote: |
Rosetta Stone is also a fantastic program but if you can't afford it, perhaps you can try perusing all the links?
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Elle, have you used Rosetta Stone? Did you actually learn said language from using the program?
I meet a lot of people who say what you said, and invariably they either never tried it, or gave up after a week. And once again, it does not teach grammar. Not formally. It teaches it in the same way I try to learn grammar, by showing sentences and asking you to puzzle it out. But most people never get even that far.
~HK |
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samd
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| RS is the worst, and by far the worst value for money. |
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lichtarbeiter
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Learning Korean grammar |
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I bought a grammar book at Bandi & Luni's for 21,000 won and after a few weeks my grammar has advanced rapidly. I'm making full sentences in past tense and future tense with adverbials and all that good stuff. This is what the book looks like:
http://www.koreanbook.de/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1692
The book only has a small exercise for each lesson, but the key is to go to this website and make your own exercises on flashcards:
http://www.flashcardmachine.com
I agree that Rosetta Stone is pretty close to useless. When you're talking to a Korean in real life, you're not going to have the convenience of 4 options to choose from. |
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