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Yaya
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| Loads more foreigners are coming to Korea than ever before, so while the OP might think it's not worth it, economic refugees from the West sure do so. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| The only certificate that really gets good jobs is an MA TESL. |
Not true I know people on 5 million base with just a CELTA and DELTA. |
I've been working in Korean universities for the past 10 years and I know no one making even close to 5 mil a month base. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| Some middle managers at the British Council are on that plus lots of other benefits like free international schooling for kids |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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dude, why are you not working in a UNI yet???
how long have you been here? teaching kids is a suckers game
leave it to the noobs, you have earned your stripes, time to cash in..
get the 5 months paid vacation, 12 hours a week work week, no weekends
3 million a month and plenty of time to do privates and RELAX!
spend your summers and winters sitting on a beach in thailand and still GETTING PAID!!! dude.. come on... |
I teach kids at a hagwon.
I work 3pm to 10pm, rarely differs.
I usually teach from 5pm to 10pm, give or take an hour. I never teach more than 24 hours per week.
I am respected and treated fairly at my workplace. There is a strong emphasis on teacher development and all the foreigners help each other out.
I also live in a nice officetel across from a subway station in a good neighbourhood. My salary is 2.6mil and I keep 2.4 after taxes. 2.6mil is the beginning salary, after a few months I'll be up for a raise.
There are no surprises (while I do a fair amount of prep work, I'm by no means forced to).
The only drawback to my job is no real vacation. If I had a longer vacation, I'd stay on permanently.
Anyway, I don't mean to brag, just pointing out that not every hagwon pays 2.0m and treats their employees like garbage. There are good hagwons to be found. I know of other chains and individual hagwons that are similar to this one. Of course, I'd never share them on Dave's because I like hording them and sharing them with people I know deserve such jobs  |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| Koreadays wrote: |
dude, why are you not working in a UNI yet???
how long have you been here? teaching kids is a suckers game
leave it to the noobs, you have earned your stripes, time to cash in..
get the 5 months paid vacation, 12 hours a week work week, no weekends
3 million a month and plenty of time to do privates and RELAX!
spend your summers and winters sitting on a beach in thailand and still GETTING PAID!!! dude.. come on... |
I teach kids at a hagwon.
I work 3pm to 10pm, rarely differs.
I usually teach from 5pm to 10pm, give or take an hour. I never teach more than 24 hours per week.
I am respected and treated fairly at my workplace. There is a strong emphasis on teacher development and all the foreigners help each other out.
I also live in a nice officetel across from a subway station in a good neighbourhood. My salary is 2.6mil and I keep 2.4 after taxes. 2.6mil is the beginning salary, after a few months I'll be up for a raise.
There are no surprises (while I do a fair amount of prep work, I'm by no means forced to).
The only drawback to my job is no real vacation. If I had a longer vacation, I'd stay on permanently.
Anyway, I don't mean to brag, just pointing out that not every hagwon pays 2.0m and treats their employees like garbage. There are good hagwons to be found. I know of other chains and individual hagwons that are similar to this one. Of course, I'd never share them on Dave's because I like hording them and sharing them with people I know deserve such jobs |
As long as you think thats a good deal, thats the main thing 
You're really opening yourself up to be shot down but I'll leave it to someone else, I can't be bothered  |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| southernman wrote: |
As long as you think thats a good deal, thats the main thing
You're really opening yourself up to be shot down but I'll leave it to someone else, I can't be bothered |
It's good as far as hagwons go. At some point you just have to accept what you have and stop comparing yourself to what everyone else is doing. I'm sure there is better out there, especially on a different visa but for the time being I'm comfortable with what I have.
A university job has far less work but I've been hearing the pay and quality of such jobs has been sliding over the years. Same with a lot of other "good" jobs in Korea. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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As long as you think thats a good deal, thats the main thing
You're really opening yourself up to be shot down but I'll leave it to someone else, I can't be bothered |
Why would anyone want to shoot the guy down? He's saying good hagwans exist and that's nice to know for people who are starting out in TEFL. I worked for several years before getting to the point he's at now financially.
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| At some point you just have to accept what you have and stop comparing yourself to what everyone else is doing. |
No you don't. You can accept your limitations sure and realise you're never going to write a best seller or create the next Facebook but you should never stop comparing yourself to what others are doing in your field. Otherwise you'll totally lose ambition and ambition can be a good thing. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
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As long as you think thats a good deal, thats the main thing
You're really opening yourself up to be shot down but I'll leave it to someone else, I can't be bothered |
It's good as far as hagwons go. At some point you just have to accept what you have and stop comparing yourself to what everyone else is doing. I'm sure there is better out there, especially on a different visa but for the time being I'm comfortable with what I have.
A university job has far less work but I've been hearing the pay and quality of such jobs has been sliding over the years. Same with a lot of other "good" jobs in Korea. |
I know there are good hagwon jobs out there, I used to work in one of them and some of my friends still do. I think you're also right about Uni jobs apart from maybe the top 10%.
You can make better money and still have 6 weeks holiday a year, if you use K Public hoildays while at PS. Then you get all the extra days off as well. You can still do ok on the simple E2 visa, some people that I know are doing very well. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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id even go to say it depends on how good your money is doing back home.
I knew one guy who was here in 1997 when I frist visited and he knew everyone and taught a ton (there werent alot of ETs back then), he told me he had bought 2 jeeps and was paying on a house in Canada.
I think there are alot of people doing well. Ive been here for 10 years, but Ive been lucky, Ive always had good bosses who were fair and kind, and in turn I worked hard. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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id even go to say it depends on how good your money is doing back home.
I knew one guy who was here in 1997 when I frist visited and he knew everyone and taught a ton (there werent alot of ETs back then), he told me he had bought 2 jeeps and was paying on a house in Canada.
I think there are alot of people doing well. Ive been here for 10 years, but Ive been lucky, Ive always had good bosses who were fair and kind, and in turn I worked hard. |
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