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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
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northway
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a lot of healthy food in Korea, but I find the problem to be that Korean cooks will ruin it by adding too much salt, gochujang or sugar. People seem to be content to eat below-par food here. I'm amazed how often I hear Korean people cooing over even the most average of foods. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Yeah, because mom made us hamburgers and fries to eat.
The Joy of Cooking has been the American bible of cooking since 1931. Such classic recipes many grew up having include: hard boiled eggs, potato salad, chicken noodle soup (139 soup recipes to be exact - most of us grew up with soup often), clam chowder, club sandwich, reuben sandwich, spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, chili con carne , roast beef, turkey roast with cranberry sauce, duck roast, chicken roast (lots of roast! with boiled carrots, peas and other veggies as side dishes), grilled salmon, steak and potatoes, kidney pie, liver and onions. THESE ARE ALL AS AMERICAN AS APPLE PIE.
The obesity epidemic in America has only been the last 30-40 years with the relatively recent rise of fast food restaurants (just as Koreans are eating all that deep fried stick stuff around schools these days and tons of radiated instant noodles, not to mention boxed snacks), the recent widespread use of high fructose corn syrup (made in Japan in the 1960s), Chinese restaurants galore (with addictive MSG made in Japan), and the recent explosion of convenience stores, and basically fast food and snacks industry.
To try and contrast traditional Korean home cooking with American modern fast food is the sort of ignorance that Koreans can be excused for making because many of them don't know any better. But visit any American household, or British or English ex-colony household (hell, and that's not including European fare) and find that what they serve for dinner is rarely the hamburgers, hot dogs and pizza so ingrained in Koreans minds as what Westerners eat. |
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dereklee003
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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To try and contrast traditional Korean home cooking with American modern fast food is the sort of ignorance that Koreans can be excused for making because many of them don't know any better. But visit any American household, or British or English ex-colony household (hell, and that's not including European fare) and find that what they serve for dinner is rarely the hamburgers, hot dogs and pizza so ingrained in Koreans minds as what Westerners eat.[/quote]
Ok so we don't eat fast food at home. Wow you proved everyone wrong. This still does not change the fact that USA is the fattest place in the world, and although we don't eat fast food at home all the time, we still eat out at fast food and other restaurants that serve portions that are fit for 2-3 people and we still snack and eat unhealthy outside of home. So, when you look at the big picture, u have to be stupid or ignorant to think Koreans or their diet is less healthy than Americans. The facts are so visually overwhelming its ridiculous that people still argue this. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Yeah, because mom made us hamburgers and fries to eat.
The Joy of Cooking has been the American bible of cooking since 1931. Such classic recipes many grew up having include: hard boiled eggs, potato salad, chicken noodle soup (139 soup recipes to be exact - most of us grew up with soup often), clam chowder, club sandwich, reuben sandwich, spaghetti and meatballs, tuna casserole, chili con carne , roast beef, turkey roast with cranberry sauce, duck roast, chicken roast (lots of roast! with boiled carrots, peas and other veggies as side dishes), grilled salmon, steak and potatoes, kidney pie, liver and onions. THESE ARE ALL AS AMERICAN AS APPLE PIE.
The obesity epidemic in America has only been the last 30-40 years with the relatively recent rise of fast food restaurants (just as Koreans are eating all that deep fried stick stuff around schools these days and tons of radiated instant noodles, not to mention boxed snacks), the recent widespread use of high fructose corn syrup (made in Japan in the 1960s), Chinese restaurants galore (with addictive MSG made in Japan), and the recent explosion of convenience stores, and basically fast food and snacks industry.
To try and contrast traditional Korean home cooking with American modern fast food is the sort of ignorance that Koreans can be excused for making because many of them don't know any better. But visit any American household, or British or English ex-colony household (hell, and that's not including European fare) and find that what they serve for dinner is rarely the hamburgers, hot dogs and pizza so ingrained in Koreans minds as what Westerners eat. |
Visit any American household? Really? Get off of it already. The average American is not eating grilled salmon nor any vegetables.
The obesity epidemic only in the last 40 years? What's your point? It has affected North America the most. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think people here are confusing diet and food.
Korean food and pretty much all food around the world is equally healthy. I mean outside of famine zones you can walk into the supermarket in any given country and buy vegetables, chicken, fish, and fresh fruit and whole grains.
All cultures have their junk food. All cultures that have money have turned their junk food into dietary staples.
Samgyupsal is the Korean equivalent of a burger. Feel good food that is clearly not that healthy for you. Koreans don't eat Samgyupsal everyday same as Americans don't always eat hamburgers.
In between its fish and a small bowl of rice and some vegetables and maybe whatever fruit is in season. Just as back home you had chicken breast and green beans and a baked potato and an apple or something.
Now diet wise, or the manner in which you eat tings, there can be a difference. I think a big thing is that here the massive tub of pop hasn't become popular. Really, all a person needs is one of those dixie cups of cola. Cola is a dessert item. I think portion size is a big part of it.
Lastly I always wonder at people who insist the Korean diet is what people eat at Kimbap Nara or Samgyupsal or Street Food. Sorry, but those are the equivalent of a Coney Island, a Bennigan's, and the hot food at the 7-11. And American's don't just eat at those places. There's also your vegatrian restaurants and ethnic food. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
this got me thinking. i tried to create a list of 10 common american restaurants that a person would frequent and couldn't come up with more than a couple that don't have burgers and fries on the menu (pizza and fried chicken joints not withstanding).
i know you are trying to make a point, but can you come up with a list of 10 common american restaurants that don't have burgers and fries on the menu? |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
this got me thinking. i tried to create a list of 10 common american restaurants that a person would frequent and couldn't come up with more than a couple that don't have burgers and fries on the menu (pizza and fried chicken joints not withstanding).
i know you are trying to make a point, but can you come up with a list of 10 common american restaurants that don't have burgers and fries on the menu? |
How dare you?
The teachers on this board ONLY frequent Michelin rated restaurants back home.
In fact, those Hungry Man microwave meals at the supermarket BUY themselves and are not bought by consumers. All those frozen foods are just there for decoration.
Finally, the CDC is wrong when it says that most American adults do not eat enough fruits and vegetables. Scientists schmientists! |
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dereklee003
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| methdxman wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
this got me thinking. i tried to create a list of 10 common american restaurants that a person would frequent and couldn't come up with more than a couple that don't have burgers and fries on the menu (pizza and fried chicken joints not withstanding).
i know you are trying to make a point, but can you come up with a list of 10 common american restaurants that don't have burgers and fries on the menu? |
How dare you?
The teachers on this board ONLY frequent Michelin rated restaurants back home.
In fact, those Hungry Man microwave meals at the supermarket BUY themselves and are not bought by consumers. All those frozen foods are just there for decoration.
Finally, the CDC is wrong when it says that most American adults do not eat enough fruits and vegetables. Scientists schmientists! |
LOL Methdxman is one of the few here who actually get it |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| I have noticed less and less actual meat in the sangyupsal I've tasted every few years in Korea (it's not my favorite). Had some this weekend that was literally nothing buy slabs of fat. No meat in it whatsoever. Frankly, I can't believe people bother to eat it. |
Yeah I have a friend here in Korea who said exactly the same thing. He called the waiter and showed him how much fat was in the strips and asked him to go back and get some with real meat in it. For over 15,000 per person you don't expect to eat 90% fat. |
We had this experience on our last visit a one restaurant. We left and found a better place down the road. My wife told me that place we left ended up closing down because the owner was skimping on the quality of the meat. |
Same. I was at a relatively cheap place, so it was understandable, but when we complained the proprietor told us that's how all samgyeopsal is. |
Arggh, the samgyeopsal issue. Whenever I do find a good restaurant that has a decent ratio, it's like I've struck meaty gold. Moksal can be a good alternative as well.
And jeez, for 15K a pop, it better be fat-free samgyeopsal.  |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
this got me thinking. i tried to create a list of 10 common american restaurants that a person would frequent and couldn't come up with more than a couple that don't have burgers and fries on the menu (pizza and fried chicken joints not withstanding).
i know you are trying to make a point, but can you come up with a list of 10 common american restaurants that don't have burgers and fries on the menu? |
What is a "common American restaurant"? I've always lived in big cities or near college towns with a wide variety of reasonably priced independent restaurants and a dearth of chain places. Within that, we have huge immigrant populations within the US, which provides us with a lot more options dining-wise. Maybe I'm just a Northeastern elitist out of touch with Appleby's Middle America, but in the major population areas I've frequented there has been a wide variety of dining options that aren't major chains, and that includes a fair number of relatively small New England towns.
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| LOL Methdxman is one of the few here who actually get it |
Yes, because only Michelin starred restaurants feature food that doesn't revolve around burgers and fries.
I don't understand the complete unwillingness to give Americans ownership over any of the massive amount of ethnic cuisine that flourishes within its borders.
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I was a little put off with the "common" American restaurant. I mean, I come from NY, so there is a lot of variety, but even in "Pensyltucky," as my grandmother refers to her mountain town in PA, there's a variety of ethnic restaurants and healthier options than the typical burger joint or steakhouse, and at the steakhouses, there are always healthier options, such as grilled chicken or fish with steamed or sauteed veggies.
I ate my fair share of fish sticks and mac and cheese as a kid, but I also ate plenty of veggies (salad was mandatory at almost every dinner) and fruit (always had an apple, pear, or a couple of oranges in my packed lunches). My mother or father always cooked, so we didn't have any of that frozen dinner garbage. |
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dereklee003
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Northway and NYC Gal----
I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying there isn't any healthy restaurants or options in the states. There is a large variety of many things in the good ol' USA. But...even if the US had more healthy restaurants than any other place in the world, it DOES NOTHING to explain why the majority, or even average, Americans are obese, overweight, unhealthy, etc. My question is this: if Americans have such amazing healthy foods, why are we one of the fattest in the world?
Also, its foolish to say suggest that the Korean diet, in general, is less healthy then the American diet, in general. OPEN YOUR EYES and look at the people and the evidence. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Korean food is unheathy? And burgers and fries aren't? U got to be kidding... |
Again: there's a hell of a lot of restaurant food available in the West that's not burgers and fries. |
this got me thinking. i tried to create a list of 10 common american restaurants that a person would frequent and couldn't come up with more than a couple that don't have burgers and fries on the menu (pizza and fried chicken joints not withstanding).
i know you are trying to make a point, but can you come up with a list of 10 common american restaurants that don't have burgers and fries on the menu? |
What is a "common American restaurant"? I've always lived in big cities or near college towns with a wide variety of reasonably priced independent restaurants and a dearth of chain places. Within that, we have huge immigrant populations within the US, which provides us with a lot more options dining-wise. Maybe I'm just a Northeastern elitist out of touch with Appleby's Middle America, but in the major population areas I've frequented there has been a wide variety of dining options that aren't major chains, and that includes a fair number of relatively small New England towns.
| dereklee003 wrote: |
| LOL Methdxman is one of the few here who actually get it |
Yes, because only Michelin starred restaurants feature food that doesn't revolve around burgers and fries.
I don't understand the complete unwillingness to give Americans ownership over any of the massive amount of ethnic cuisine that flourishes within its borders. |
I think I grew up in a place that is both a health-nut food place in America and also has a very diverse offering of both ethnic foods and junk foods (Los Angeles). I know what the U.S. has to offer in terms of good quality eats and healthy offerings.
Most Korean households have really simple and healthy meals. They're not eating korean bbq every day. It's usually just a tiny bowl of rice, some soup and some banchan. You really can't get any healthier than that in terms of both caloric intake + lots of veggies. Even the average poor person in Korea eats a pretty low-calorie, high veggie diet.
Sadly, this isn't the reality for most Americans. No matter what people on here say about their diet being based on veggies, soups, stews, etc. it just isn't true for most of America. If that were the case, we wouldn't have the obesity epidemic that we do.
And in the U.S. the poorer you are the poorer your diet is. |
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