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 Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: Re-signing with a hagwon |
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I have nearly been at my hagwon for a year now, and am thinking of re-signing.
When I first started, I taught an average of 10 teaching hours per week. After a few months they increased to around 20 teaching hours, with around 30 hours spent at work.
The pay has always been 2 million won (before tax etc).
How much of an increase should I ask for, in light of the fact that hagwons seem to have an average of 2.2 million pay, and that I now have one year's experience (with a summer camp)??
Will they give me flight money if I don't want to leave Korea?? I don't want to spend time in my home country or go on a holiday.
My (crappy) recruiter negotiated them out of having to pay for my flight here or my visa run. I have worked for comparatively little at this hagwon. I would like to get something out of it, but I also would rather stay with the kids I know and at a school where I know what I'm getting, than finding a new hagwon and moving etc.
There is a possibility that I will be leaving the hagwon to work at a non-teaching job in Korea under a different type of visa within the first 6 months...so I may have to pay back the flight money (half the return flight, or if I'm lucky, the amount of a single flight ticket to Korea) if I receive it.
I am wondering if a public school would be a better option. But I would need something in Seoul in September-late September. How likely is this?? |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Re-signing with a hagwon |
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| clustered wrote: |
I have nearly been at my hagwon for a year now, and am thinking of re-signing.
When I first started, I taught an average of 10 teaching hours per week. After a few months they increased to around 20 teaching hours, with around 30 hours spent at work.
So- out of a total of 30 hours, 2/3rds of the time was spent teaching? Sounds like a good deal.
The pay has always been 2 million won (before tax etc).
How much of an increase should I ask for, in light of the fact that hagwons seem to have an average of 2.2 million pay, and that I now have one year's experience (with a summer camp)??
That is up to the discretion of your manager. If you are willing to take on more responsibilities (like head teacher- if qualified) then you can get a bigger bump. However the norm is to get only a 0.1 million raise.
Will they give me flight money if I don't want to leave Korea?? I don't want to spend time in my home country or go on a holiday.
Again, up to the discretion of your employer. However that begs the question- is it still called flight money? 
My (crappy) recruiter negotiated them out of having to pay for my flight here or my visa run. I have worked for comparatively little at this hagwon. I would like to get something out of it, but I also would rather stay with the kids I know and at a school where I know what I'm getting, than finding a new hagwon and moving etc.
There is a possibility that I will be leaving the hagwon to work at a non-teaching job in Korea under a different type of visa within the first 6 months...so I may have to pay back the flight money (half the return flight, or if I'm lucky, the amount of a single flight ticket to Korea) if I receive it.
I'm confused. You didn't pay for a flight here, yet you want to receive an extra bonus- then you might have to give it back? Why not just ask for a 6-month extension?
I am wondering if a public school would be a better option. But I would need something in Seoul in September-late September. How likely is this??
That depends on how many recruiters you are working with. Only sign once you talk to the school's co-teacher (obviously).
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clustered
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Re-signing with a hagwon |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
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I have nearly been at my hagwon for a year now, and am thinking of re-signing.
When I first started, I taught an average of 10 teaching hours per week. After a few months they increased to around 20 teaching hours, with around 30 hours spent at work.
So- out of a total of 30 hours, 2/3rds of the time was spent teaching? Sounds like a good deal.
Don't many hagwons operate with hours like this?
The pay has always been 2 million won (before tax etc).
How much of an increase should I ask for, in light of the fact that hagwons seem to have an average of 2.2 million pay, and that I now have one year's experience (with a summer camp)??
That is up to the discretion of your manager. If you are willing to take on more responsibilities (like head teacher- if qualified) then you can get a bigger bump. However the norm is to get only a 0.1 million raise.
Will they give me flight money if I don't want to leave Korea?? I don't want to spend time in my home country or go on a holiday.
Again, up to the discretion of your employer. However that begs the question- is it still called flight money?
My (crappy) recruiter negotiated them out of having to pay for my flight here or my visa run. I have worked for comparatively little at this hagwon. I would like to get something out of it, but I also would rather stay with the kids I know and at a school where I know what I'm getting, than finding a new hagwon and moving etc.
There is a possibility that I will be leaving the hagwon to work at a non-teaching job in Korea under a different type of visa within the first 6 months...so I may have to pay back the flight money (half the return flight, or if I'm lucky, the amount of a single flight ticket to Korea) if I receive it.
I'm confused. You didn't pay for a flight here, yet you want to receive an extra bonus- then you might have to give it back? Why not just ask for a 6-month extension?
I would still get the money for a flight home. And I did pay for a flight here. I may be staying longer than 6 months, but it's up in the air.
I am wondering if a public school would be a better option. But I would need something in Seoul in September-late September. How likely is this??
That depends on how many recruiters you are working with. Only sign once you talk to the school's co-teacher (obviously).
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Usually Hagwons keep you onsite for longer. 8 hours per day and sometimes half a day on Sat (this is what the higher paying hagwons demand)
My mistake about the part concerning the flight--
I meant to say that you did pay for the flight, however if you take the money for a RT ticket you might have to pay it back, that seems unusual.
You can always negotiate something, if you aren't willing to stay the full year. Planning (even in this environment) can make your life easier later. |
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clustered
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Usually Hagwons keep you onsite for longer. 8 hours per day and sometimes half a day on Sat (this is what the higher paying hagwons demand)
My mistake about the part concerning the flight--
I meant to say that you did pay for the flight, however if you take the money for a RT ticket you might have to pay it back, that seems unusual.
You can always negotiate something, if you aren't willing to stay the full year. Planning (even in this environment) can make your life easier later. |
It's just that in contracts I've seen/ heard about, they state that if the employer leaves within the first 6 months, they are required to pay back the flight money (from their home country to Korea).
I didn't mean I'd have to pay the whole RT ticket back - just the half that brings me back to Korea from my home country. |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| of course a public school would be better. |
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different
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| At your hagwon you only teach 20 hours per week and only have to be there 30 hours per week? That's really good and a public school is definitely not better than that. At a public school you have to be there 8 hours a day, teach up to 22 hours per week, and have to deal with big classes (much more stressful unless all of your co-teachers are good at class management) and co-teacher issues. I think you'd be a damn fool to leave your hagwon, unless you're desperate for more money, you crave a new challenge, or there's some big problem at your hagwon. |
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bobbybigfoot
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| A 200,000 Won a month raise is standard, in my opinion. Basically it costs an employer 2.4 million (200 a month) to fly the old teacher home and fly a new teacher in. So accepting anything less is selling yourself short. |
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Hotpants
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:46 am Post subject: |
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If you've gotten along with your boss and think you have done a good job, why not ask for a payrise?
I think 20 class hours a week for 2 mill is not a particularly good deal. Prices in Seoul are going up and up and up. |
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