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soulofseoul



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Whos an IP address expert? Reply with quote

Hi
I was thinking about this. If I use 3G and surf the internet on my galaxy S
then turn 3G off and use a wifi signal, would the person reading my IP address be totally different with no aspects of the information being the same??
Thx
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Whos an IP address expert? Reply with quote

soulofseoul wrote:
Hi
I was thinking about this. If I use 3G and surf the internet on my galaxy S
then turn 3G off and use a wifi signal, would the person reading my IP address be totally different with no aspects of the information being the same??
Thx


Your IP address would change when you switch ISPs (go from 3g on the cell network to a home wifi connection).

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Mr. Peabody



Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: here

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: Whos an IP address expert? Reply with quote

soulofseoul wrote:
Hi
I was thinking about this. If I use 3G and surf the internet on my galaxy S
then turn 3G off and use a wifi signal, would the person reading my IP address be totally different with no aspects of the information being the same??
Thx

No. There is only one person who reads all the IP addresses. He's really busy so he might not notice.

Razz
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soulofseoul



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I meant was if a certain individual was trying to see your IP address.
I thought even though you had an IP address from 3G and an address from wifi being switched between on the same device, that there MAY be similar info thats viewable to determine that the addresses are coming from the same source
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ulmaeri



Joined: 26 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you switch networks, your IP address is going to change. But you may be thinking of the MAC id. This is a number that is used by the network interface. But switching from 3G to wifi should use a different interface and a different id. Switching wifi networks would change your IP address but keep the same MAC id.
Now since the MAC id's are supposed to be unique to each device. It is possible that the government and the teleco's have a database with each phone id and mac id's.
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soulofseoul



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulmaeri wrote:
When you switch networks, your IP address is going to change. But you may be thinking of the MAC id. This is a number that is used by the network interface. But switching from 3G to wifi should use a different interface and a different id. Switching wifi networks would change your IP address but keep the same MAC id.
Now since the MAC id's are supposed to be unique to each device. It is possible that the government and the teleco's have a database with each phone id and mac id's.


When you say MAC id you mean only Apple based devices?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soulofseoul wrote:
ulmaeri wrote:
When you switch networks, your IP address is going to change. But you may be thinking of the MAC id. This is a number that is used by the network interface. But switching from 3G to wifi should use a different interface and a different id. Switching wifi networks would change your IP address but keep the same MAC id.
Now since the MAC id's are supposed to be unique to each device. It is possible that the government and the teleco's have a database with each phone id and mac id's.


When you say MAC id you mean only Apple based devices?


A Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to network interfaces for communications on the physical network segment. MAC addresses are used for numerous network technologies and most IEEE 802 network technologies including Ethernet. Logically, MAC addresses are used in the Media Access Control protocol sub-layer of the OSI reference model.

They have nothing to do with Apple Inc.

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nstick13



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was just learning about this in my certification videos, so as a form of studying I'm going to elaborate a bit.

MAC addresses specify who made the network card. They're twelve digit numbers/letters; the first six of which tell its creator (intel, broadcom, etc.)
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soulofseoul



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok
But for fun I switched between my 3g and wifi signals
The "internal ip" changes but the "external ip" addresses still stay the same
What are the differences between the two?
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soulofseoul wrote:
Ok
But for fun I switched between my 3g and wifi signals
The "internal ip" changes but the "external ip" addresses still stay the same
What are the differences between the two?

I'm not sure where you're seeing the IP address reported. For an easy way to check your IP in both circumstances, just point your phone browser to www.whatismyipaddress.com when you're connected to 3G and when you're connected to wifi. They will definitely be different.
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soulofseoul



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatertot wrote:
soulofseoul wrote:
Ok
But for fun I switched between my 3g and wifi signals
The "internal ip" changes but the "external ip" addresses still stay the same
What are the differences between the two?

I'm not sure where you're seeing the IP address reported. For an easy way to check your IP in both circumstances, just point your phone browser to www.whatismyipaddress.com when you're connected to 3G and when you're connected to wifi. They will definitely be different.


I did do that but on speedtest.net. It displays more details . Like I said the internal ip address changes but the external ip address stays the same
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your external IP address is staying the same, then it's because it's still using the same network it initially connected to. So, if your device connects itself using Wifi, and you turn off the 3G, it doesn't matter that you've turned off the 3G, you're still connected using the Wifi. 3G and Wifi use different networks, and you will be assigned different external IP addresses.

Internal addresses are usually assigned by a network adapter, switch, router, or similar device. This is usually in the range of 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255, depending on the device. Those will also change if you are switching from one connection type to another, as they tend to be randomly assigned, but they will usually start from the lowest available address, which is why you think you might still be on the same connection, but you're not. It might just be that, in both cases, you're assigned a similar number; usually 192.168.0.100 is the first one available.

I suggest you force whichever connection you want to close, to close. How you do that on your particular device, I am unsure.
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