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Using 2 recruiters for 2 DIFFERENT JOBS-IN TROUBLE

 
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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Using 2 recruiters for 2 DIFFERENT JOBS-IN TROUBLE Reply with quote

Hello my fellow ESLers!

Well Ive given up looking for a public job now but am really planning for Feb 2012.This is what Iam thinking to give me more options-

I was just wondering,after looking at the different job opportunities for public schools,would I be allowed to apply to EPIK with one recuriter and for a job at a public school in Jelleonamdo (run by Jelleonamdo Metropolitan School Board) with another recruiter-Canadian Connections.I really want to use a friend's particular recruiter for EPIK as she recommended them and I cant change that one.

I know the rule is that teachers cant use 2 different recruiters but in this instance they are two DIFFERENT ORGANISATIONS I am going to be applying to so this is the difference.And the recruiter Im applying to for the EPIK job does not offer jobs directly with Jelleonamdo so thats why I have to go with another recruiter for that.

So what I want to ask is -IS THIS ALLOWED?

Thank you all so much,
Irish girl Natasha
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question I used 4 or 5 recruiters before first coming here, trying to find the best fit, some recruiters not listening to my location requests, others slow with correspondence or worse attitude, etc.

There's nothing wrong with using multiple recruiters prior to making a decision. ONLY SIGN ONE CONTRACT THOUGH. If you give your word and don't mean it then you deserve hell to pay later if your legal commitment is used against you!
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Krishire



Joined: 28 Apr 2011
Location: United States

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok- I'm no expert on this. Just fyi. ^^

Tat said- I think you can only apply to EPIK once in each district. So If I applied to EPIK in Busan (Yeongnam area?), then I cannot use another recruiter to apply to that same area. I have heard that if your application pops up twice in the same district office, they pitch it. I suggest asking your recruiter. I told one recruiter that I had applied for a district and they said they could not resend my app, but they could send my app to another district they worked with.

Again, not an expert, so don't just rely on my situation. ^^;
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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the info guys Reply with quote

I think you're right about that Krishire BUT what is I applied to another area with EPIK (we're allowed to pick a preference I think)that is not Jelleonamdo -somewhere like Ulsan or another city for example.

Then when I am applying to Jeollomando School Metropolitan Board through this other recruiter Canadian Connections as well,it should'nt show up that Im applying to the same cities/provinces,should it?

This is because I will be applying to two different places,

What does everyone think?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless you are applying directly to the (public) schools (private placement by recruiter) you can only use 1 recruiter for EPIK or your application will be rejected.

If you want Jeolla province specifically then look for private placements in a PS in addition to your EPIK application.

If you don't mind being placed elsewhere then use another recruiter for a GEPIK application (there are more schools in Gyeonggi province than the rest of Korea combined (not including Seoul)) so your chances of actually getting a job are greatly improved.

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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:03 am    Post subject: So this means you cant apply! Reply with quote

Ok ttompatz so this means I cant actually apply to Jeollanambdo Schoo Board AND EPIK at the same time?Is that what you mean??
And the reasoning for this is because there may be some schools recruited by EPIK that are in Jeollanamdo.

You said that I could apply for a private school position in a public school.What is this?I have never heard of these.Are they stable jobs?

Ok I have contacted footprints just to check about any remaining GEPIK jobs and they said the remaining few GEPIK jobs are going to go on a first come first serve basis.So if I was to send in my application form now and be rejected would this scupper my chances for next year -Spring 2012 intake.What I mean is -do they keep your name on record??

Thanks ttompatz!
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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: gepik Reply with quote

That is would it scupper my chances for next year with GEPIK if I was to apply again next year and my application with GEPIK being rejected now!

Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: So this means you cant apply! Reply with quote

natasha12 wrote:
Ok ttompatz so this means I cant actually apply to Jeollanambdo Schoo Board AND EPIK at the same time?Is that what you mean??
And the reasoning for this is because there may be some schools recruited by EPIK that are in Jeollanamdo.

You said that I could apply for a private school position in a public school.What is this?I have never heard of these.Are they stable jobs?

Ok I have contacted footprints just to check about any remaining GEPIK jobs and they said the remaining few GEPIK jobs are going to go on a first come first serve basis.So if I was to send in my application form now and be rejected would this scupper my chances for next year -Spring 2012 intake.What I mean is -do they keep your name on record??

Thanks ttompatz!


If you applied now and didn't make it for the next GEPIK intake (Aug.) then yes, you could reapply again next intake (for March) and try again.

Private placements in a public school are the same as an EPIK/GEPIK job but the schools hire directly through a recruiter instead of the lottey they go through with the national programs. The ONLY exceptions are that you will know where you are going before you sign the contract and you get a visa confirmation number instead of a NOA (notice of appointment).

Applying directly to the Jeolla POE is the same as (IS) a private placement in a public school and yes, you can do that and apply to EPIK at the same time.

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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Thanks ttompatz Reply with quote

Thanks for that ttompatz!

Im glad now Im waiting until Spring 2012.However,if I did appy now,didnt get a place,then appiled for Spring 2012,do they (ie Gepik or EPIK) keep your name on file to show that you applied before??

Hop I get in-I have a primary teaching qualification and a TEFL CELTA cert so hoping that will help me.Over 2 years teaching experience.And a diploma in elocution-I dont think the Koreans would understand what that is though.Do you think they would?

The only thing that I am worried about is my health problem.Its not serious but its caused me to put on weight even though I dont look overweight at all.Im a Size 12.Im worried it might go against me though and my qualifications and experience won't matter.

Thanks for your help!
Are you in a public or private school?

Natasha
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Primary teaching credentials (home country license?) - Why are you looking to be a English speaking TA in a public school?

Look at international schools Asia wide (unless you have some special love for Korea). The pay and benefits are the same or better and you will be a real teacher instead of just an "assistant".

There are lots of decent jobs open (all over Asia) for teachers with home country certification, especially at the primary level.

I have worked in all 3 sectors (public, hagwan and university) and I am a strong advocate of the PS system for newbies to Korea. I am not currently teaching in Korea. I am currently working as a consultant for a provincial government office and teaching in Thailand when I am not in Korea.
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natasha12



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason why I want to teach ESL in Asia is because I want to do a Masters in Linguistics.It's a specilaised course and the heads of department told me that working in a good school in Korea or Japan in particular would be looked upon very well.

I actually really like teaching ESL though-it's more challenging than ordinary primary teaching.I also speak French and Spanish (have two A2s at Leaving Cert level-that is end of high school exams) and a diploma in Elocution so I am very interested in Linguistics.

I can't teach in a primary school full time in Ireland and am only teaching part-time at the momnet.This is because there are so many government cut-backs because of the recession going on here at the moment.I did have a full time job and it was cut to part-time last year.Yes,I could teach in a primary school anywhere abroad,but as I said I would like to teach in ESL in Asia in order to do this Masters.

But am hoping my health issues don't go against me,
Can they deport somebody after the health-check because of their weight?

Thanks,
Natasha
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

natasha12 wrote:
The reason why I want to teach ESL in Asia is because I want to do a Masters in Linguistics.It's a specialized course and the heads of department told me that working in a good school in Korea or Japan in particular would be looked upon very well.

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But am hoping my health issues don't go against me,
Can they deport somebody after the health-check because of their weight?

Thanks,
Natasha


If you are morbidly obese then the chances of getting hired are slim.
If you are anorexic you are good as gold to an employer (until you have your heart attack - then they will let you float in the wind).

No, they won't deport you for weight issues if you do manage to get a job.

If you don't get in at a public school, make sure your flight is prepaid so you don't get left at the airport (yes, it has happened).

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Andyc24_uk



Joined: 21 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong here, but I think I remember reading somewhere that Gwangju BoE recruits their teachers independently, outside of EPIK? If that's the case, and the OP particularly wants to be in Jeollanamdo, could she not apply to the Gwangju recruitment scheme through another recruiter, as well as to EPIK for the rest of Namdo?

(Like I say, not 100% on this so if I've got my facts wrong, feel free to ignore me!)
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