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pegunicent
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: Overtime |
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I'm looking at working in Korea for the first time, I'm CELTA certified and hoping to get my two years in one school so I can do my DELTA, but an odd thing struck me when I was looking at my proposed contract.
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| Actual in-class teaching hours are set for 120 hours per month. Any additional class hours exceeding the 120 hours per month, the teacher will be entitled to get paid over time at a rate of 20,000 Korea Won per hour. The teacher has no right to refuse any over time duty that exceeds the regular class hours. |
Now, I'm not adverse to working over time, and the compensation sounds decent, but it's the 'has no right to refuse' that makes me blink. I looked through the forums and I couldn't find anything specifically related to this so I thought I'd just ask, is this normal? And if it is, am I going to be ground down with a lot of overtime? |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Overtime |
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| pegunicent wrote: |
I'm looking at working in Korea for the first time, I'm CELTA certified and hoping to get my two years in one school so I can do my DELTA, but an odd thing struck me when I was looking at my proposed contract.
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| Actual in-class teaching hours are set for 120 hours per month. Any additional class hours exceeding the 120 hours per month, the teacher will be entitled to get paid over time at a rate of 20,000 Korea Won per hour. The teacher has no right to refuse any over time duty that exceeds the regular class hours. |
Now, I'm not adverse to working over time, and the compensation sounds decent, but it's the 'has no right to refuse' that makes me blink. I looked through the forums and I couldn't find anything specifically related to this so I thought I'd just ask, is this normal? And if it is, am I going to be ground down with a lot of overtime? |
That sounds like a cut-and-paste typo -- like the "no" should have been "the," as in, "the employee has the right to refuse any over time duty...."
If that is NOT a typo, I'd say run far run fast.... |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| The teacher has no right to refuse any over time duty that exceeds the regular class hours. |
That is too strong.
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| the employee has the right to refuse any over time duty |
That is too hopeful.
I think a more practical condition you will see in most contracts is, "the employee CAN BE EXPECTED to do overtime depending on school's schedule, blah blah blah...."
I would let them know you can do overtime but would like that condition reworded. |
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pegunicent
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks koreatimes, I was going to bring it up to them when we next spoke, they told me this was an 'old sample' contract and they needed to update it before they sent me the real one, but it just made me blink a few times. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
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| The teacher has no right to refuse any over time duty that exceeds the regular class hours. |
That is too strong.
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| the employee has the right to refuse any over time duty |
That is too hopeful.
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Actually, that is the wording in MY hakwon contract...although once accepted, it can not just be dropped (since students are enrolled in the class, arrangements need to be made to keep the class going, so OT is not weekly or monthly, but more semester-ly at my school...). The initial request to take on overtime, however, is entirely voluntary. OT is never forced.
Of course, flattery and wheedling are sometimes employed by admin to get folks to agree to it, and 30k an hour isn't an insult.
Personally, I don't mind doing OT, but I DO mind being TOLD I MUST do OT. I am firm enough in that attitude that I would quit over forced OT, or turn down an otherwise acceptable job offer because of it. |
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