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unusual practice of opening windows w/ air conditioner?
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DanseurVertical



Joined: 24 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: AC sickness Reply with quote

I actually feel unwell in chronically air conditioned buildings. Always have, for as long as I can remember.

But I think that's mainly because I'm more sensitive to cold than others are, and chronically air conditioned buildings are drier than if they were left open (in most climates, outside air tends to be more humid).

I also have a strong preference for fresh, circulating air. I generally prefer to be outdoors to being indoors.

My response: in summer I use a fan and not AC unless it's unbearably hot, and in winter I'll periodically close my room's vent and open a window to change the air.

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I don't think Koreans can scientifically explain their intuition / feeling about indoor air. So they maybe freely create theories to explain it, but those theories lack scientific basis. As a consequence, they know that following the practices makes them feel better, but the exact procedures (e.g., opening windows for the first 10 minutes of using the AC) are inefficient.

To North Americans, we only notice the inefficiency, so they seem like nonsense to us. But I think the real empirical basis is just psychological: people like some combination of outside air and indoor, conditioned air.
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whitestboyalive



Joined: 09 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: AC sickness Reply with quote

My co-worker today informed me of the TRUE reason Koreans open the window when the air conditioner is on.

In a stale room the oxygen content of air molecules drops rapidly. Carbon and toxic materials attack the oxygen and turn it into carbon monoxide. These molecules are negatively detracted from blowing wind, as they do not wish to become "good" again. The "good" air blowing in from the AC is charged with static energy and attracts the "bad" toxic air like a magnet, forcing it out the window. Once all the "bad" air is out, it is released up into the atmosphere where the rain will eventually grab it and bring it down to the ground where it will be reborn into dust which goes down into the sewer and poofs out of existence, breaking up naturally. Once all the "bad" air is gone (typically after 10 minutes) and all the "good" air inside, then it is time to shut the window. But beware! Unless the AC is going constantly, at the lowest temperature possible, the good air molecules will start becoming bad!

Whatever you do, don't turn on a fan at the same time as the AC, especially with the window closed! This chops up the oxygen molecules, therefore leading to create a poisonous atmosphere which can lead to asphyxiation by the fan.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
Zyzyfer wrote:
nukeday wrote:
Anyway, I got the usual query from my coteacher today. "Hey nukeday, what do you call the feeling when you become sick from the air conditioning being on? We call it something like 'air conditioning disease.'" I simply told her that I was unaware of any term in English and that feeling sick from Air conditioning probably means the unit needs to be cleaned out.


It falls under the blanket "sick building syndrome."

Also if you Google "air conditioning sickness" it's more prevalent of a concern than people may first think.


I googled it. Almost all the results are from Asia or are Asia-related.

There must be a disproportionate number of "sick buildings" here, hence people talking about it so much.


I apologize I was on vacation.

I am now back to open up my towerology clinic. I shall cure all buildings, large of small, of any infection they may possess!
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
PigeonFart wrote:
The reason is ---> the Air Conditioner was new technology to most Koreans back in the late 80's and 90's. Therefore the adjuma, used to opening windows to stay cool, kept that tradition going because they didn't understand the new technology.

So a generation of young koreans grew up listening to their mother's B.S. (due to profound scientific ignorance). So even today relatively young koreans in their 30's still open the window when using Air Con. What a bunch of twats.

They also do the inverse, open the window in winter when the heater is too hot. Energy wasting ingoramuses.

I call BS on this.
Every Korean i've asked about this over the years has said it is to keep the air 'fresh' as the conditioned air feels too dry/harsh.

In regards to the winter, windows are kept open to keep air circulating and reduce the possibility of mold forming under the wallpaper as condensation builds up between a hot interior and cold concrete.


That's why you use thick windows and put insulation on buildings. Any building more than 5 or 10 years old seems to not have these things. Many older buildings have thin brown windows where moisture in the air accumulates and leaks down into the wallpaper and walls. Also many older buildings have poor heaters and no insulation. Mold waiting to happen. Also, little heat mixes with your CO2 and then you can have a severe mold problem. I live in a new building with double layer windows, styrofoam insulation, and heat that works. Went through a couple of cold seasons. No mold. None of this open your windows nonsense! (I think English teachers get stuck in substandard accomodation, sometimes.)
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:
Energy wasting ingoramuses.


Laughing
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the aircon on today, but I was forced to open the windows due to the horrendous odour emanating from my sweaty, adolescent students.
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Sticks



Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd think deodorant and antiperspirant would catch on here, but nooooooo it's 'only for girls.' Laughing
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We run the AC for 10 minutes with the windows open, but that's to help drive out the smell of the toxic varnish that was used on our hardwood floors and walls. Seriously, in the summer months that place is lethal. It's the only place in Korea I don't ever find insects that have taken up residence.
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bobrocket



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually have a window open when I crank the AC, I love the cool crisp feeling but I need fresh air coming in. There's no logic or science behind it.
It's not Korea specific either, it's just me
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a side question, why is it that many Koreans can't seem to understand how to use a thermostat or temperature control?

It seems the "air-con" is always set to full on Arctic Freeze or turned off.

There seems to be no happy medium.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:


It seems the "air-con" is always set to full on Arctic Freeze or turned off.

There seems to be no happy medium.


now, grasshopper, you have found the key to understanding Korea.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to jack the A/C with the windows down in my car. Very Happy A blast of cool air yet fresh too, NO A/C HEADACHES!

And in my classroom I leave the windows a little open with the air conditioner on and fan on, so that the air circulates well.
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