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Radius
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:25 am Post subject: Send Your Kids to Hagwon to get Two Hours of Peace at Home? |
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| How many Korean parents do you think do this? Although the kids may not be as problematic at home, but if they were, I'd defintely spend the $150 bucks to get them out of the house and out of my hair for a couple hours a day--and if they enhance their English skills while at it, that's a bonus. |
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Koreadays
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Send Your Kids to Hagwon to get Two Hours of Peace at Ho |
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| Radius wrote: |
| How many Korean parents do you think do this? Although the kids may not be as problematic at home, but if they were, I'd defintely spend the $150 bucks to get them out of the house and out of my hair for a couple hours a day--and if they enhance their English skills while at it, that's a bonus. |
sounds like what western mums would do.
I think Korean mums truly believe that their kids need to keep up with the Jones and send them to study and become smarter.
only if the mothers really knew what goes on in those classrooms. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Send Your Kids to Hagwon to get Two Hours of Peace at Ho |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| Radius wrote: |
| How many Korean parents do you think do this? Although the kids may not be as problematic at home, but if they were, I'd defintely spend the $150 bucks to get them out of the house and out of my hair for a couple hours a day--and if they enhance their English skills while at it, that's a bonus. |
sounds like what western mums would do.
I think Korean mums truly believe that their kids need to keep up with the Jones and send them to study and become smarter.
only if the mothers really knew what goes on in those classrooms. |
I believe the mums are no different, no matter what the country |
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jonbowman88
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I've seen kids getting picked up for there soccer hagwon. maybe it's not called a hagwon but I was really surprised cause my parents always took me to soccer and watched. But the van just come to pick them up, why? because they want some quiet i guess. Not sure if this is necessarily true with english though |
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northway
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| jonbowman88 wrote: |
| I've seen kids getting picked up for there soccer hagwon. maybe it's not called a hagwon but I was really surprised cause my parents always took me to soccer and watched. But the van just come to pick them up, why? because they want some quiet i guess. Not sure if this is necessarily true with english though |
...or their parents are busy. My parents never had time to watch, personally. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| the pickup is part of the 'service'. I've known Korean churches do this in the States- possibly to keep attendance up |
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Kaypea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| the pickup is part of the 'service'. I've known Korean churches do this in the States- possibly to keep attendance up |
Oh... oh.. what tv show or movie is that from? Is it The Office? I think... Michael from The Office, in some weird quest to make friends, talks to some Korean American church ladies who can't speak English and ends up going in their van with them...
I remember it being an interesting moment in my life, seeing the hangul just blend into the American backdrop and not noticing it's a foreign language... hehe
As for the subject, I think the moms probably see it both ways: the kid gets babysat and learns English. I don't think they really question if the hogwans are effective or not. I think the formula is: more studying + more studying = better. I think the babysitting is appreciated, but it isn't the main reason for sending the kid there. |
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SinclairLondon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Right show, wrong plot. He had bought the van from a Korean church for his new paper company. As absentmindedly as they attend church, Koreans would get in the van as Michael and Pam made paper deliveries. But it wasn't a way for Michael to make friends.....though he would be the perfect ESL teacher in Korea. |
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Kaypea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| SinclairLondon wrote: |
| Right show, wrong plot. He had bought the van from a Korean church for his new paper company. As absentmindedly as they attend church, Koreans would get in the van as Michael and Pam made paper deliveries. But it wasn't a way for Michael to make friends.....though he would be the perfect ESL teacher in Korea. |
...and as absentmindedly as I watch TV. Thanks^^
I've also thought Michael would be a good ESL teacher in Korea. He would totally think his teenage students were in love with him, too. |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| When I worked in a hagwon I often got the impression we were a bit of a babysitting service. |
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ontheway
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Korean moms do not need to send their kids to hogwans for peace and quiet. The kids are already gone for hours each day to their public school babysitting service. It is expensive and the moms often have to drive or walk the kids to their hogwans - not all have vans or buses for pickups. In other families both parents work, so there is no need to use a hogwan to get them out of the house.
The fact is that the public schools teach next to nothing at best. Parents want their kids to learn and this requires chosing the best possible after school hogwans for every subject in one location (as some teach) or as many subjects as possible in single subject hogwans.
Most mothers sending their kids to hogwans end up with complicated and hectic lives as a result. They do it because it is essential that their children get an education, and kids must either go to good hogwans or teach themselves at home if they want to learn anything. |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
Korean moms do not need to send their kids to hogwans for peace and quiet. The kids are already gone for hours each day to their public school babysitting service. It is expensive and the moms often have to drive or walk the kids to their hogwans - not all have vans or buses for pickups. In other families both parents work, so there is no need to use a hogwan to get them out of the house.
The fact is that the public schools teach next to nothing at best. Parents want their kids to learn and this requires chosing the best possible after school hogwans for every subject in one location (as some teach) or as many subjects as possible in single subject hogwans.
Most mothers sending their kids to hogwans end up with complicated and hectic lives as a result. They do it because it is essential that their children get an education, and kids must either go to good hogwans or teach themselves at home if they want to learn anything. |
Sounds like a party political broadcast for the Democratic Union of Korean Mothers that send their kids to hagwons |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
Korean moms do not need to send their kids to hogwans for peace and quiet. The kids are already gone for hours each day to their public school babysitting service. It is expensive and the moms often have to drive or walk the kids to their hogwans - not all have vans or buses for pickups. In other families both parents work, so there is no need to use a hogwan to get them out of the house.
The fact is that the public schools teach next to nothing at best. Parents want their kids to learn and this requires chosing the best possible after school hogwans for every subject in one location (as some teach) or as many subjects as possible in single subject hogwans.
Most mothers sending their kids to hogwans end up with complicated and hectic lives as a result. They do it because it is essential that their children get an education, and kids must either go to good hogwans or teach themselves at home if they want to learn anything. |
It's not that public school is insufficient, it's that the entire public education system is a relentless battleground where most are left behind. Hogwons slightly improve a student's chances of getting into one of the very few good universities in Korea, and even then not by much. (Their chances improve dramatically if their parents are famous/rich/powerful...)
What Korea needs to do is make their universities more competitive; make the adults duke it out for the good jobs, rather than the children who likely have no idea what they'll even study when they get there. Stop letting morons pay for degrees, and just maybe a degree from Boondock U will be worth more than the paper it's printed on. |
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wooden nickels
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
Korean moms do not need to send their kids to hogwans for peace and quiet. The kids are already gone for hours each day to their public school babysitting service. It is expensive and the moms often have to drive or walk the kids to their hogwans - not all have vans or buses for pickups. In other families both parents work, so there is no need to use a hogwan to get them out of the house.
The fact is that the public schools teach next to nothing at best. Parents want their kids to learn and this requires chosing the best possible after school hogwans for every subject in one location (as some teach) or as many subjects as possible in single subject hogwans.
Most mothers sending their kids to hogwans end up with complicated and hectic lives as a result. They do it because it is essential that their children get an education, and kids must either go to good hogwans or teach themselves at home if they want to learn anything. |
^ THIS |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| litebear wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
Korean moms do not need to send their kids to hogwans for peace and quiet. The kids are already gone for hours each day to their public school babysitting service. It is expensive and the moms often have to drive or walk the kids to their hogwans - not all have vans or buses for pickups. In other families both parents work, so there is no need to use a hogwan to get them out of the house.
The fact is that the public schools teach next to nothing at best. Parents want their kids to learn and this requires chosing the best possible after school hogwans for every subject in one location (as some teach) or as many subjects as possible in single subject hogwans.
Most mothers sending their kids to hogwans end up with complicated and hectic lives as a result. They do it because it is essential that their children get an education, and kids must either go to good hogwans or teach themselves at home if they want to learn anything. |
Sounds like a party political broadcast for the Democratic Union of Korean Mothers that send their kids to hagwons |
+10 What's your agenda "ontheway"? Do you want to do away with public education? |
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