Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Should I change jobs?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Should I change jobs? Reply with quote

I've been at my current hagwon for 6 months. Things started off ok, but things have gotten worse over time. I started to gradually dislike the job, but I figured I could tough it out for the whole contract (this is my second contract in Korea).

The reasons I am considering leaving are...

- Myself among all the other teachers were paid late last month
- The school is losing students
- The schedule continues to change every month...no consistency
- He is talking about starting adult classes on Saturdays which is not in the contract
- Not paying pension like stated in the contract
- One Korean teacher was fired because he didn't want to pay her
- Two more Korean teachers are quitting this month (teachers that have been there for years and haven't been paid in 2 months)

I figure if the school closes in the future, maybe that would be easier for me to change jobs rather than quitting. Despite all the stuff listed above, I wouldn't say the boss is a mean guy, but just terribly disorganized and confused a lot of times. So I could get LOR, but I'm not 100% sure.

Another thing, that is keeping me here in my area is my girlfriend lives 20 minutes away but we work the same late evening schedules so it's hard enough to see each other as it is.

I figure if I could get paid on time, I could tough it out until my contact finishes, but in my contract, it even states that if things are not fulfilled as said, I can break it. I just don't know how easy it would be to quit and change jobs.

Any advice or tips? It is much appreciated Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mollayo



Joined: 11 Oct 2010
Location: At the my house

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have many reasons for leaving. Many good reasons. It's up to you if you want to risk not getting paid.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Allthechildrenareinsane



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Should I change jobs? Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
I've been at my current hagwon for 6 months. Things started off ok, but things have gotten worse over time. I started to gradually dislike the job, but I figured I could tough it out for the whole contract (this is my second contract in Korea).

The reasons I am considering leaving are...

- Myself among all the other teachers were paid late last month
- The school is losing students
- The schedule continues to change every month...no consistency
- He is talking about starting adult classes on Saturdays which is not in the contract
- Not paying pension like stated in the contract
- One Korean teacher was fired because he didn't want to pay her
- Two more Korean teachers are quitting this month (teachers that have been there for years and haven't been paid in 2 months)

I figure if the school closes in the future, maybe that would be easier for me to change jobs rather than quitting. Despite all the stuff listed above, I wouldn't say the boss is a mean guy, but just terribly disorganized and confused a lot of times. So I could get LOR, but I'm not 100% sure.

Another thing, that is keeping me here in my area is my girlfriend lives 20 minutes away but we work the same late evening schedules so it's hard enough to see each other as it is.

I figure if I could get paid on time, I could tough it out until my contact finishes, but in my contract, it even states that if things are not fulfilled as said, I can break it. I just don't know how easy it would be to quit and change jobs.

Any advice or tips? It is much appreciated Very Happy



Do you have enough money at the moment for a flight back home? If so, I would say ask your boss for the LOR. If he says no and your work situation continues to deteriorate, then at the very least you can pull a runner and remove yourself from a bad situation and then look for another job while back home.

Before you do that, though, I would say you might want to start applying for other jobs while still in Korea. Go on the job boards, send out resumes to some recruiters and specify that you're looking for a position in or at least near your current city so you don't end up hundreds of miles away from your girlfriend. Try to get another job offer in hand before you ask for the LOR.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Myself among all the other teachers


That doesn't tell us anything.

Are these teachers native English speakers or Korean teachers?

If you are the only native English speaker, then I would stay there. If there are 3 or more native English speakers, have a talk with them and try to convince the boss to give one a letter of release.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Should I change jobs? Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
I've been at my current hagwon for 6 months. Things started off ok, but things have gotten worse over time. I started to gradually dislike the job, but I figured I could tough it out for the whole contract (this is my second contract in Korea).

The reasons I am considering leaving are...

- Myself among all the other teachers were paid late last month
- The school is losing students
- The schedule continues to change every month...no consistency
- He is talking about starting adult classes on Saturdays which is not in the contract
- Not paying pension like stated in the contract
- One Korean teacher was fired because he didn't want to pay her
- Two more Korean teachers are quitting this month (teachers that have been there for years and haven't been paid in 2 months)

I figure if the school closes in the future, maybe that would be easier for me to change jobs rather than quitting. Despite all the stuff listed above, I wouldn't say the boss is a mean guy, but just terribly disorganized and confused a lot of times. So I could get LOR, but I'm not 100% sure.

Another thing, that is keeping me here in my area is my girlfriend lives 20 minutes away but we work the same late evening schedules so it's hard enough to see each other as it is.

I figure if I could get paid on time, I could tough it out until my contact finishes, but in my contract, it even states that if things are not fulfilled as said, I can break it. I just don't know how easy it would be to quit and change jobs.

Any advice or tips? It is much appreciated Very Happy


I pulled a runner after the 1st month of my second job due to the bolded. The job I have now is way less hours, same pay, and none of the shady red flags/lies my last hagwon pulled.

Your boss MUST give you 30 days notice if he fires you since you've been there for 6 months already.

My advice: From the sounds of it you want to stay in Korea, so get another set of documents ready NOW and the DAY you get paid after those fresh docs are ready pull a runner. Come back to Korea, stay in a goshiwun, and find a job on your own. Of course if you can manage a LOR (which I doubt from your OP) none of that will be necessary. Don't worry about the pension, you can collect that when you get back by showing the pension office proof you worked at the hagwon, your boss will get fined, and you'll get your money.

Worked for me. I advise you do to the same as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is good advice. Don't even hint to your boss that you might leave until you have a complete set of apostilled docs in hand. You'll need them if you need to cancel your current visa and start again from scratch. If your American this can take a few months, unfortunately.

Your boss sounds very erratic, I wouldn't bet on him giving you an LOR if I were you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International