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Patrick Hanley



Joined: 24 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Universtiy job wanted Reply with quote

I am wondering where is the best place to look for a University job in Seoul? Website, newspaper etc. any advice?

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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Universtiy job wanted Reply with quote

Patrick Hanley wrote:
I am wondering where I the best place to look for a University job in Seoul? Website, newspaper etc. any advice?


Etc.

ALL of the decent positions are recruited and filled by word of mouth and networking.

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dodge



Joined: 01 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not strictly true.

i looked on Dave's ESL Jobs board for uni jobs, and have managed to get 2 interviews without knowing anyone.

whether I actually bag a job is another matter though...
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are wondering:

What is your degree level? You have a much better shot at a decent university position with an MA under your belt.

Did you major in a related dicipline?

How many years of teaching experience do you have, at what type of institution, and at what age levels?
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Patrick Hanley



Joined: 24 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am wondering is a DELTA certificate ok for applying or do I need a Masters?
I heard peopel get the job with a Masters in ny field i.e. Religion, Math etc., so logically I am guessing a DELTA cert should be enough.

I also have a B.Sc.I.T with Business degree with 4 years teaching as a NSET. 2 years in Korea and 2 years in Germany.


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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check out Craig's List as well.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Universtiy job wanted Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Patrick Hanley wrote:
I am wondering where I the best place to look for a University job in Seoul? Website, newspaper etc. any advice?


Etc.

ALL of the decent positions are recruited and filled by word of mouth and networking.

.


Many top jobs post open ads on their own website.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Post subject: Universtiy job wanted


Step 1: Learn how to spell "university".
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Quote:
Post subject: Universtiy job wanted


Step 1: Learn how to spell "university".


And you to use quotes.

OP: networking is critical, as is responding quickly to postings. Many jobs are filled by internal hiring; current teachers recommending people. This is why networking means a lot.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Hanley wrote:
I am wondering is a DELTA certificate ok for applying or do I need a Masters?
I heard peopel get the job with a Masters in ny field i.e. Religion, Math etc., so logically I am guessing a DELTA cert should be enough.

I also have a B.Sc.I.T with Business degree with 4 years teaching as a NSET. 2 years in Korea and 2 years in Germany.


b.sc in i.t. so �networking� shouldn't be a problem for op. Razz
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jammo



Joined: 12 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
Patrick Hanley wrote:
I am wondering is a DELTA certificate ok for applying or do I need a Masters?
I heard peopel get the job with a Masters in ny field i.e. Religion, Math etc., so logically I am guessing a DELTA cert should be enough.

I also have a B.Sc.I.T with Business degree with 4 years teaching as a NSET. 2 years in Korea and 2 years in Germany.


b.sc in i.t. so �networking� shouldn't be a problem for op. Razz


Should be more useful than an ITTT 60 hour comedy course Razz
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some universities, usually smaller ones in cities or those located outside of cities, may still hire people with just the BA. The CELTA/DELTA addition would be great, but the MA trumps.

All of the people I know at the higher paying, big university jobs have their MA, plus the CELTA/DELTA and other certs. At the top, it gets much more competitive.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Some universities, usually smaller ones in cities or those located outside of cities, may still hire people with just the BA. The CELTA/DELTA addition would be great, but the MA trumps.

All of the people I know at the higher paying, big university jobs have their MA, plus the CELTA/DELTA and other certs. At the top, it gets much more competitive.


Most of the teachers I know at SKY and other top unis don't have CELTAs or DELTAs.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My search for a university job this year(with a BA) has just about petered out.

I'm going to start a distance MA program in the fall, hopefully Birmingham's, and ideally do the second half on campus. I'm thinking of doing a CELTA in the middle somewhere too. Would that have a huge impact on my chances at a big university gig straight after finishing my MA? Or do most of the big ones require experience at the university level as well?(I will have had 3 years at kindy/elementary hagwons)
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, Bibbitybop. Every instructor I know at a SKY university has the CELTA/DELTA, and some of them are actually CELTA/DELTA instructors.

The key for the SKY schools is the MA in a related major and experience, so I don't doubt that there are indeed a lot of people without the extra buzz and whistle certs.
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