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[soulofseoul]

yelling at an old man? Does anyone know exactly what was said etc.?
How does this get on the main page of all the online sites??? :roll:

[winterfall]

Yup, heard about it. The old guy said something to him about his leg touching his pants so he told the young guy to put it down. And the young guy flipped. My guess is there was either a lost in translation moment or the young guy had a run in with an ajusshi before.

I don't blame him, I've had back things happen with ajusshis and disabled people on the subway. They can be complete douche bags. One lady in a wheel chair's way of getting me to move my foot while I was obviously sleeping (Snoring with the drool dripping down my neck) was to ram it at full speed.

[Chalmers]

link?

[eamo]

It's the new news trend in Korea. Younger people flipping out at older people.

The young guy (seems like an a**hole. Wearing a too-tight shirt to show off his 'muscles' and sitting in that annoying way....I'm with the old guy in this story) had his foot up on his other leg so the sole was near or touching the old guys leg. Old guy complained, young guy flipped out. Hardly a news story, I agree. But it fits with the current outcry that the young people are becoming less respectful...........

The other story this week was the young mother who got into a physical fight with older woman on the subway because the older woman was cooing over her baby and touching the child. Mom asked older woman to not touch the child. Older woman flipped out. I'm with the Mom on this one. I resent the old folk touching my daughter too.

Korea is changing A LOT........10 years ago the old folks always got their way. Now the young are standing up to them more. Great! Go for it young Koreans! The old people and the old attitudes are holding you back.

[Koreadays]

[rainism]

I think you guys are a little off on this one. In the comments section in the KT story, there's a youtube link to it all.

first of all, in regards to the Mom and the old woman, I'm with Mom. Don't touch my kid. However, since I doubt the old lady was aggressive about it, the Mom surely overreacted. If it was a "oh, you're so cute" kind of pinch cheek, there's no need to unload in that matter.

and hitting the old woman, even with a plastic bottle is taking things way way too far (unless something was said, even then)
as to the Korean "tough guy".

according to the comments section, the thing started when the old man told the guy to uncross his legs because his shoe was rubbing up against the bottom of the old guy's pants.

what really rubs me the wrong way is the simple age of the old man.. true grandpa and the behavior of mr. "tough guy". He preens and pawns and pushes up his pigeon chest in front of the old man, supposedly yelling at him to get off the train or else he's dead.

I mean, seriously.

If the man weren't a grandpa but a simple adjosshi I'd never interfere and would chuckle if the guy told the guy to do something to himself.
But an old grandpa with a cane? and it's not as if the old man was that seriously in the wrong. Look at how he comports himself. With dignity.

if I were on that train I'd probably get in front of mr tough guy and tell him to go away, and if he had an issue with that, I'd ask him how into how many pieces he'd like his pigeon chest and skinny arms broken into.

I'm all for younger Koreans throwing off their preposterous Confucian age based yoke, but this was taken way way way too far.

and.. as noted, it's not as if gramps was being an ahole. It was tough guy idiot. Even if gramps is being an ahole, he should be left alone if he's an old grampa. (not applicable to adjosshis)

p.s. interesting, looks like KT has removed the story.

[cj1976]

[eamo]

[Kaypea]

Definitely the sign of the times. My friend told me a "shocking" story that went like this:

There were some no-goodnik teenagers hanging around in a park. They were speaking and joking loudly, and some older guy walking in the park told them, disrespectfully, to be quiet. The teenagers responded, verbally, the way we'd expect western teenagers to respond to some middle aged stranger tlling them to shut up, so the man hit one of them. The teenagers caught it on cell phone camera, then called the police. The police came, and the teenagers tattled on the man, and the man tattled on the teenagers... In both parties' minds, the others had done wrong. Nobody got into any trouble, and thankfully the story isn't on the internet or anything. My friend heard it word of mouth, I guess.

My friend (30-ish male, not particularily conservative) thinks the teenagers and the older guy in this story were pretty goofy, but his mom is really shocked by the teenagers. She was also shocked to see, on more than one occasion, young people smoking in public when she's around. Yes, the world is changing....

[young_clinton]

Off to the pokie with bullies and thugs. There is such a thing as showing the finger and telling people off, use them.

[rainism]

it got buried, but I found the story

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/06/117_89799.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsBz7nHIzNg

first class pigeon chested douchebag, preening and threatening grampa around 70. Doubly so, when gramps hadn't been at fault.

By Kim Rahn

Public anger is growing over a young man who in a video footage hurled a torrent of abuse at an elderly man on a subway train.

Many Internet users are denouncing him and demanding he be punished, while some have disclosed the man�s personal information online, which was proven false.

The backlash started after the video clip was posted on an online bulletin board Sunday. In the four-minute footage, a man in his 20s cursed and swore at an elderly man in his 70s or 80s. The older man had asked the younger man not to cross his legs as it caused the boy�s shoe to touch the older man�s trouser leg.

Shouting and using the f-word, the young man responded, �I didn�t do anything wrong! Why do you provoke me?� He also shouted at a middle-aged man who was trying to stop him, saying, �Don�t touch me!�

He then told the elderly man to get off the subway carriage at the next stop, saying, �Do you want to go to the police? Get off at Seoul Station. If you don�t, you�re dead.�

In respons, the old man was relatively calm, telling the man, probably around the age of his grandson, that he was simply asking him to observe etiquette on the subway.

Bloggers have expressed their disapproval, deploring the man�s impoliteness. An Internet user, kokomi, commented, �He should apologize to the old man on his knees on the subway in front of many passengers. His parents also should do the same because they raised him like that.�

Some Internet users are making an online petition, calling for him to be punished. �I hope the law enforcement authorities will catch him, give as heavy a punishment as possible, and make him apologize to the old man and the public. If society lets him get away with it, there will be more victims,� said blogger js who started the petition, supported by about 25,000 people.

Some also disclosed his name, residence and the school he attends on the Internet. Bloggers posted articles denouncing him on the school�s website and his blog.

But it was found the information was wrong, and the officials of the school filed a petition with the police to find the rumormongers, saying the false information defamed the school.

Days earlier, another video clip shot on the subway also caused a stir, in which a young mother carrying a baby hit an old woman with a plastic bottle for touching the child.

[rainism]

out of curiosity, just what sort of "punishment" do the netizens think the Korean police can mete out in this instance?

is swearing at an older person a criminal offense?

the proper response would be for grampa's grandkids to resolve the matter

pigeon chest would be in trouble if that were my grandfather.

[Yaya]

Oftentimes, older people in Korea use the stupid Confucian system to abuse or take advantage of younger people. Perhaps that guy had had it with that and all of his emotions and frustration came flooding out.

[rainism]

[recessiontime]