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Joshea8
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach 1 55 minute class and 6 45 minute classes every day. We get a 5 minute break between classes and a 15 minute break for dinner between 7:15 and 7:30. |
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marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: where pretty lies perish
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
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I teach 28 classes a week.
8 50 minute classes and 20 40 minute classes
My hours are 12:45-5:45 M-Th and 2:00-5:45 F
I love my schedule. The breaks are only 5 minutes but it pays dividends because the days here just fly by as opposed to my last 9:30-6:30 hagwon.
I work at an after school program and love it. |
@ marsavalanche: I'm curious to know how you found your current job -- recruiter, word of mouth, networking? Maybe I'm just overlooking them, but I've never seen after school programs advertised on the job boards. Is your job considered full-time or part-time? Are you on an E-2? If you're making decent money, it sounds like you've got a pretty sweet deal. |
I found it here on Dave's job postings. You're not overlooking them, the jobs aren't posted often. Full-time. E-2. Money is average, but I only have 1 year of experience and a non-related bachelors degree. Still, I'm not complaining. It doesn't even feel like a full time job to be honest. Right now it's 1PM I'm sitting at home on Dave's after morning errands and I'll be finished with work at 6.  |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
I teach 28 classes a week.
8 50 minute classes and 20 40 minute classes
My hours are 12:45-5:45 M-Th and 2:00-5:45 F
I love my schedule. The breaks are only 5 minutes but it pays dividends because the days here just fly by as opposed to my last 9:30-6:30 hagwon.
I work at an after school program and love it. |
@ marsavalanche: I'm curious to know how you found your current job -- recruiter, word of mouth, networking? Maybe I'm just overlooking them, but I've never seen after school programs advertised on the job boards. Is your job considered full-time or part-time? Are you on an E-2? If you're making decent money, it sounds like you've got a pretty sweet deal. |
I found it here on Dave's job postings. You're not overlooking them, the jobs aren't posted often. Full-time. E-2. Money is average, but I only have 1 year of experience and a non-related bachelors degree. Still, I'm not complaining. It doesn't even feel like a full time job to be honest. Right now it's 1PM I'm sitting at home on Dave's after morning errands and I'll be finished with work at 6.  |
I gotta start looking more carefully. . . .  |
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danb056
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| 15 a week. 14 55 minute classes and 1 70 minute class. 5 minute breaks between each class and 30mins for 'eating dinner' whenever I want to do that. There's a fair bit of down time which can get a bit boring (I'm in from 1:50-8:00) but I think it's pretty cushy really. |
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danb056
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| 15 a week. 14 55 minute classes and 1 70 minute class. 5 minute breaks between each class and 30mins for 'eating dinner' whenever I want to do that. There's a fair bit of down time which can get a bit boring (I'm in from 1:50-8:00) but I think it's pretty cushy really. |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| danb056 wrote: |
| 15 a week. 14 55 minute classes and 1 70 minute class. 5 minute breaks between each class and 30mins for 'eating dinner' whenever I want to do that. There's a fair bit of down time which can get a bit boring (I'm in from 1:50-8:00) but I think it's pretty cushy really. |
Sounds pretty awesome. What kind of students do you teach: elementary, middle school? I'm guessing you don't work for a chain. |
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cayce23
Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Location: Gwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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I currently teach 29 40-45 minute classes a week. I have to be at work from 1:30-10:30. We have one class that starts at 2:30, though the bulk of our classes don't start until 5:30. Sometimes I sit at my desk for 4 hours without a class.
Luckily, our breaks are not monitored. We can have lunch whenever we don't have class. Usually the foreign teachers take 45 minutes to eat, compared with the 15 the Koreans take. We can also leave and go for a walk or to get snacks. I've been gone for an hour before and no one ever said anything. |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Saigon
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: |
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19 classes 45 or 55 minutes each (roughly half/half). Prep is 5 minutes at most. I gotta be there 3-10pm but what I do in my downtime is up to me... hour-long dinners with coworkers, a stroll in the park, facebook, reading on my Kindle, studying Korean, watching Youtube videos, soccer/NBA/baseball games, etc. As long as the kids don't complain, it all good with my supervisor.
This month we're having intensives but that just adds 4 classes to my load and absolves me of any regular responsibilities (grading written homework, etc.) and my working hours stay the same.
Pay is average but I don't mind because I have a lot of free time before I start work to: attend Korean classes, volunteer once a week, work out, cycle, Skype with family and friends, cook wholesome meals, go to an outdoor swimming pool, etc. And after I'm done with work I can always grab a few drinks with friends or geek out and watch TV shows  |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ssuprnova wrote: |
19 classes 45 or 55 minutes each (roughly half/half). Prep is 5 minutes at most. I gotta be there 3-10pm but what I do in my downtime is up to me... hour-long dinners with coworkers, a stroll in the park, facebook, reading on my Kindle, studying Korean, watching Youtube videos, soccer/NBA/baseball games, etc. As long as the kids don't complain, it all good with my supervisor.
This month we're having intensives but that just adds 4 classes to my load and absolves me of any regular responsibilities (grading written homework, etc.) and my working hours stay the same.
Pay is average but I don't mind because I have a lot of free time before I start work to: attend Korean classes, volunteer once a week, work out, cycle, Skype with family and friends, cook wholesome meals, go to an outdoor swimming pool, etc. And after I'm done with work I can always grab a few drinks with friends or geek out and watch TV shows  |
Sounds pretty sweet!
Thanks to everybody who posted. It was good to get a sense of what reasonable hagwon class schedules look like.  |
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danb056
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Allthechildrenareinsane wrote: |
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| 15 a week. 14 55 minute classes and 1 70 minute class. 5 minute breaks between each class and 30mins for 'eating dinner' whenever I want to do that. There's a fair bit of down time which can get a bit boring (I'm in from 1:50-8:00) but I think it's pretty cushy really. |
Sounds pretty awesome. What kind of students do you teach: elementary, middle school? I'm guessing you don't work for a chain. |
Mostly elementary. I've got one class of middle school boys. Used to have more but they grew up and we don't teach high school stuff (shame really as I loved those classes). It's part of the 'Eastern English' chain, but it has it's own name dreamed up by the director. |
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Icewontolla
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:13 am Post subject: |
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I'm jealous lol. I posted a similar thread but with some different stuff entailed.
I teach 32 classes a week (40 min long) 5 min breaks in between. Every other week it amounts to a bout 34...though it seems I might be doing 36 now as a class has been randomly added. My place seems to change its schedule every month so this could all change, it seems to just add more and more as time goes on.
My Mondays and Wednesdays I have one break (still expected to prepare and do paperwork which doesn't make much sense to me). Today is my easiest day where I only teach 3 classes...wow feels good. Of course that ended up being 4 classes, and 30 minutes of cleaning the school. |
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ytide
Joined: 26 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Excel tells me the average for posters in this thread is ~1250 in-class-minutes per week. (This comes to 31 to 32 classes per week at 40 minutes per class).
Here's a summary of responses from which I derive this conclusion.
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1.) Allthechildrenareinsane: 58 classes at 30 minutes per class = 1,740 class-minutes/week
2.) thegadfly: ~1,280 class-minutes/week
3.) Porksta: 25 classes at 50 minutes per class = 1,250 class-minutes/week
4.) marsavalanche: 8 classes at 50 minutes plus 20 classes at 40 minutes = 1,200 class-minutes/week
5.) Hokie21: 15 classes at 70 minutes per class = 1,050 class-minutes/week
6.) kardisa: Usually 32 classes at 30 minutes per class, max. 40 classes at 30mins = 960 to 1200 class-minutes/week
7.) Joshea8: Daily 1 class at 55 minutes plus 6 classes at 45 minutes (five days a week?) = 1,625 class-minutes/week
8.) danb056: 14 classes at 55 minutes and 1 class at 70 minutes per week = 840 class-minutes/week
9.) cayce23: 29 classes at (avg.?) 43 minutes per week = 1247 class-minutes/week
10.) ssuprnova: 19 classes at (avg.) 50 minutes = 950 class-minutes/week, with "intensives" reaches 1,150 class-minutes/week.
11.) Icewontolla: 32 to 36 classes at 40 minutes per class = 1,280 to 1,440 class-minutes per week.
12.) ytide [see below]: 38 classes per week at 40 minutes per class = 1,520 class-minutes per week.
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As Icewontolla wrote above, most hagwons shift their schedules around pretty regularly, so there is always fluidity in these numbers.
In my first-year contract, my standard was 38 classes at 40 minutes each. It reached 42 or thereabouts during summer vacation, but I was paid extra for that. In the last months, my total class-load was reduced to 30, because my boss was trying to coax me into renewing [ultimately I didn't]. At times in the last two months there, it even sank to a luxurious 28 (I can't describe how relaxed work was with 28 classes a week, vs. the frenetic pace of 7-a-days).
1,520 : My standard "class-minutes per week".
1,680 : All-time highest I saw (paid extra)
1,120 : My all-time lowest
I can testify that the difference in teacher effectiveness between 1,120 and 1,520 is pretty high.  |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| ytide wrote: |
Excel tells me the average for posters in this thread is ~1250 in-class-minutes per week. (This comes to 31 to 32 classes per week at 40 minutes per class).
Here's a summary of responses from which I derive this conclusion.
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1.) Allthechildrenareinsane: 58 classes at 30 minutes per class = 1,740 class-minutes/week
2.) thegadfly: ~1,280 class-minutes/week
3.) Porksta: 25 classes at 50 minutes per class = 1,250 class-minutes/week
4.) marsavalanche: 8 classes at 50 minutes plus 20 classes at 40 minutes = 1,200 class-minutes/week
5.) Hokie21: 15 classes at 70 minutes per class = 1,050 class-minutes/week
6.) kardisa: Usually 32 classes at 30 minutes per class, max. 40 classes at 30mins = 960 to 1200 class-minutes/week
7.) Joshea8: Daily 1 class at 55 minutes plus 6 classes at 45 minutes (five days a week?) = 1,625 class-minutes/week
8.) danb056: 14 classes at 55 minutes and 1 class at 70 minutes per week = 840 class-minutes/week
9.) cayce23: 29 classes at (avg.?) 43 minutes per week = 1247 class-minutes/week
10.) ssuprnova: 19 classes at (avg.) 50 minutes = 950 class-minutes/week, with "intensives" reaches 1,150 class-minutes/week.
11.) Icewontolla: 32 to 36 classes at 40 minutes per class = 1,280 to 1,440 class-minutes per week.
12.) ytide [see below]: 38 classes per week at 40 minutes per class = 1,520 class-minutes per week.
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As Icewontolla wrote above, most hagwons shift their schedules around pretty regularly, so there is always fluidity in these numbers.
In my first-year contract, my standard was 38 classes at 40 minutes each. It reached 42 or thereabouts during summer vacation, but I was paid extra for that. In the last months, my total class-load was reduced to 30, because my boss was trying to coax me into renewing [ultimately I didn't]. At times in the last two months there, it even sank to a luxurious 28 (I can't describe how relaxed work was with 28 classes a week, vs. the frenetic pace of 7-a-days).
1,520 : My standard "class-minutes per week".
1,680 : All-time highest I saw (paid extra)
1,120 : My all-time lowest
I can testify that the difference in teacher effectiveness between 1,120 and 1,520 is pretty high.  |
@ytide: Wow, way to go the extra mile on this! I guess I maybe should have made this into a survey originally as well as a regular thread.
I think it would be great to gather even more precise data on this and other teaching conditions at hagwons. It would make a great resource for newbies considering working at hagwons, as well as anyone else interested in this area of the EFL industry in Korea. |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: |
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22.5 50 minute classes per week
work time is 2-8 MW and every other Friday and 2-7 TTH and every other Friday. |
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marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: where pretty lies perish
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| ytide wrote: |
Excel tells me the average for posters in this thread is ~1250 in-class-minutes per week. (This comes to 31 to 32 classes per week at 40 minutes per class).
Here's a summary of responses from which I derive this conclusion.
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1.) Allthechildrenareinsane: 58 classes at 30 minutes per class = 1,740 class-minutes/week
2.) thegadfly: ~1,280 class-minutes/week
3.) Porksta: 25 classes at 50 minutes per class = 1,250 class-minutes/week
4.) marsavalanche: 8 classes at 50 minutes plus 20 classes at 40 minutes = 1,200 class-minutes/week
5.) Hokie21: 15 classes at 70 minutes per class = 1,050 class-minutes/week
6.) kardisa: Usually 32 classes at 30 minutes per class, max. 40 classes at 30mins = 960 to 1200 class-minutes/week
7.) Joshea8: Daily 1 class at 55 minutes plus 6 classes at 45 minutes (five days a week?) = 1,625 class-minutes/week
8.) danb056: 14 classes at 55 minutes and 1 class at 70 minutes per week = 840 class-minutes/week
9.) cayce23: 29 classes at (avg.?) 43 minutes per week = 1247 class-minutes/week
10.) ssuprnova: 19 classes at (avg.) 50 minutes = 950 class-minutes/week, with "intensives" reaches 1,150 class-minutes/week.
11.) Icewontolla: 32 to 36 classes at 40 minutes per class = 1,280 to 1,440 class-minutes per week.
12.) ytide [see below]: 38 classes per week at 40 minutes per class = 1,520 class-minutes per week.
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As Icewontolla wrote above, most hagwons shift their schedules around pretty regularly, so there is always fluidity in these numbers.
In my first-year contract, my standard was 38 classes at 40 minutes each. It reached 42 or thereabouts during summer vacation, but I was paid extra for that. In the last months, my total class-load was reduced to 30, because my boss was trying to coax me into renewing [ultimately I didn't]. At times in the last two months there, it even sank to a luxurious 28 (I can't describe how relaxed work was with 28 classes a week, vs. the frenetic pace of 7-a-days).
1,520 : My standard "class-minutes per week".
1,680 : All-time highest I saw (paid extra)
1,120 : My all-time lowest
I can testify that the difference in teacher effectiveness between 1,120 and 1,520 is pretty high.  |
Damn dude you really went all out. Are all of these people hagwon/public school/after school programs?
If any are college professors, I think they should specify. It makes more sense to compare the people doing that as opposed to grouping them in with non-university work.
Also after doing the numbers I just realized I was teaching over 6 hours more a week for a mere 100,000won difference. Glad I quit and moved to greener pastures  |
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